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Ive heard that the reason they say to use distilled water is that regular tap water has chlorine, which kills the elctrolytes. Are there any other reasons? If you took tap watr and let it sit to "gas off" the chlorine is it considered safe?MY BIKES..1977 GS 750 B, 1978 GS 1000 C (X2)
1978 GS 1000 E, 1979 GS 1000 S, 1973 Yamaha TX 750, 1977 Kawasaki KZ 650B1, 1975 Honda GL1000 Goldwing, 1983 CB 650SC Nighthawk, 1972 Honda CB 350K4, 74 Honda CB550
NEVER SNEAK UP ON A SLEEPING DOG..NOT EVEN YOUR OWN.
I would rather trust my bike to a "QUACK" that KNOWS how to fix it rather than a book worm that THINKS HE KNOWS how to fix it.Tags: None
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Crankthat
Dont know the technical terms. But they say to use distilled water not only because of chlorine but minerals and any other stuff in tap water will stick to everything in battery causing it to not charge right. When battery is charging they cook onto battery parts like stuff on a hot water element when you pull it out. It just takes less time on heater element.
Ever look in old car radiator and see calcium deposits on inside all built up(the white stuff)? Its the same thing. If they had used distilled water it wouldnt be there because those minerals are not in it.
Bought a glass packed battery at local auto store and put on bike without charging first, bike started right up its supposto last alot longer then regular battery and hold its charge during long terms of storage.
Just bought this spring so dont know how long battery is good for. And i will usually ride some in the winter so wont be able to tell you about storage.
If it holds up like the salesman at store says (hes got one on boat) the extra $20 bucks spent was worth it.
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koolaid_kid
Chuck, it is the minerals that harm the battery. Never, NEVER, use plain tap water. It will kill the battery. Distilled water tastes horrible because of this lack of extra crud in the liquid, but makes it safe for battery plates.
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mriddle
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Originally posted by mriddle View PostSynthetic water is even better
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Chemically, the battery manufacturers only accounted for Hydrogen and Oxygen (in a 2:1 ratio if I paid close enough attention in HS chemistry) and a PH of 7. And anything else that is in there, chlorine, calcium, twigs, amoeba, hopes, dreams, whatever, gets in the way of the chemical process working at it's full potential for as long as possible. And distilled water should ONLY be H2O.
Because chlorine isn't the only problem, it might be possible to distill your own if you were to boil the water, catch and condense the steam in an super clean container, keep impurities out during transport, and use the result. But I think it is much easier to drop the $0.97 on a gallon of it at the grocery store.
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Killer2600
Originally posted by mriddle View PostSynthetic water is even better
Originally posted by Steve View PostI even carry a pack of powdered water, just in case I need some more.
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Originally posted by Gibbelstein View PostChemically, the battery manufacturers only accounted for Hydrogen and Oxygen (in a 2:1 ratio if I paid close enough attention in HS chemistry) and a PH of 7. And anything else that is in there, chlorine, calcium, twigs, amoeba, hopes, dreams, whatever, gets in the way of the chemical process working at it's full potential for as long as possible. And distilled water should ONLY be H2O.
Because chlorine isn't the only problem, it might be possible to distill your own if you were to boil the water, catch and condense the steam in an super clean container, keep impurities out during transport, and use the result. But I think it is much easier to drop the $0.97 on a gallon of it at the grocery store.
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ALL my batteries require maintenance..Guess im not as ghetto rich as the rest of you guys.MY BIKES..1977 GS 750 B, 1978 GS 1000 C (X2)
1978 GS 1000 E, 1979 GS 1000 S, 1973 Yamaha TX 750, 1977 Kawasaki KZ 650B1, 1975 Honda GL1000 Goldwing, 1983 CB 650SC Nighthawk, 1972 Honda CB 350K4, 74 Honda CB550
NEVER SNEAK UP ON A SLEEPING DOG..NOT EVEN YOUR OWN.
I would rather trust my bike to a "QUACK" that KNOWS how to fix it rather than a book worm that THINKS HE KNOWS how to fix it.
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bomber737
AGM (Advanced Glass Matt) maintenance free battery on eBay for 38.95. Works great, lasts long time. Battery maint is for over achievers, ill just be lazy
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Originally posted by chuck hahn View PostALL my batteries require maintenance..Guess im not as ghetto rich as the rest of you guys.
A gallon of distilled water will cost less than $2 and last you for years1978 GS 1000 (since new)
1979 GS 1000 (The Fridge, superbike replica project)
1978 GS 1000 (parts)
1981 GS 850 (anyone want a project?)
1981 GPZ 550 (backroad screamer)
1970 450 Mk IIID (THUMP!)
2007 DRz 400S
1999 ATK 490ES
1994 DR 350SES
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Matchless
You can also use deionized water.
We had large battery installations and only used deionized water where the batteries lasted nearly 20 years!
I found a lot of "battery water" sold as "distilled water" with a high ppm count which should be low for distilled water.
Deionized water will have a very low conductivity, but could have a high ppm. Distilled water again will have both low ppm and low conductivity.
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cableguy
Originally posted by Gibbelstein View PostChemically, the battery manufacturers only accounted for Hydrogen and Oxygen (in a 2:1 ratio if I paid close enough attention in HS chemistry) and a PH of 7. And anything else that is in there, chlorine, calcium, twigs, amoeba, hopes, dreams, whatever, gets in the way of the chemical process working at it's full potential for as long as possible. And distilled water should ONLY be H2O.
Because chlorine isn't the only problem, it might be possible to distill your own if you were to boil the water, catch and condense the steam in an super clean container, keep impurities out during transport, and use the result. But I think it is much easier to drop the $0.97 on a gallon of it at the grocery store.
Plus, softened water would leave salt deposits over time, and hard water would would leave mineral deposits over time, which I guess could short the plates, but it seems like moto batteries get replaced at intervals where just normal use would wear them out before that would happen.
Powdered water is NOT recommended, at least not before adding water.
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