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    #31
    Originally posted by gustovh View Post
    What gives you ask...good question, go to the stator papers and run the tests, it does not take long.

    Try takeing apart the gas cap and cleaning it, you may have a plugged vent.

    Is it a 16 valve motor?
    V
    done the tests before, all seemed to be in spec, but something might have changed, will make time to try again.

    gas cap was taken apart, cleaned, and reassembled, I think it's all OK I can hear it breathing (if I can describe it like that)

    yes 16 valve

    Originally posted by Steve View Post
    Those voltage numbers are showing me that the charging system is trying to work, but there might be a poor ground connection from the R/R to the battery.

    Check to see where the R/R is grounded. Many times, it is simply grounded back to its mounting bolt, which is rubber-isolated from the rest of the chassis, and relies on yet another wire that might be connected to the chassis or the battery. Try running a new wire from wherever the R/R is currently grounded directly to the battery and see if your voltage at speed improves.

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    wiring is all stock, no additional anything, I did go through it all before assembly, cleaned everything, di-electric grease on all contacts, I will check on the grounds, and add a secondary, I have a main ground from battery to engine, I don't know of any other, or I don't remember, will check, and add if necessary as per your suggestion.

    Thanks guys

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      #32
      FOR SALE......well it will be soon

      So I took the bike to work today.......first time in a very long time....

      started up this morning, bit of white smoke, took a few minutes to warm up, and she settled into an idle somewhat, but being pressed for time and wanting to go, popped her into 1st and took off.

      no issues, got to work OK

      went home for lunch, again no issues

      now, going back to work, moving along fast pace, and lights catch me off guard, have to down shift fast, and brake hard to stop and not go through the intersection ( I thought I was going to beat the light change) anyways get the bike stopped at the line, and she

      FRIGGEN STALLS...............................aaaarrrrrrggg ghhhhhhh



      lucky no cars behind me, hit the starter, a few cranks, more than I wanted and she starts up, blipping the throttle to keep her alive, light turns green and off I go.....

      get to work, turn her off, and walk away......

      CRaP



      one used bike, just rebuilt, selling for half price, since I can't get her to stop from stalling and cutting out on me.....this one if anyone has forgotten....






      going to park it right beside the for sale sign I now have on my front lawn for the house,,,,gonna be a package deal......

      I am not a happy camper

      yes I will check the grounds, I have not gotten to that yet, busy entertaining real estate agents, bloody pain in the a$$ they are also....

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        #33
        Based on my own recent experiences, I'm thinking its the carbs and the more I think on it and the more talking I do with my buds I'll bet it's got to do with float level adjustment.

        There is not a lot of leeway there and while mine looked good by eyeball, they were too high by 3 or 4 mm which was definitely enough to push it to the lean side of performance.

        I'll bet dollars to donuts that's the major culprit and we are going to have to pull those puppies off for a good old look see.

        Don't dispair if mine can get sorted, yours surely can be fixxed too.

        Cheers matey,
        spyug

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          #34
          jeez that's a gorgeous bike. dont give up on it! i hope to have one of those someday.

          hope you have some luck figuring it out!

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            #35
            Originally posted by spyug View Post
            Based on my own recent experiences, I'm thinking its the carbs and the more I think on it and the more talking I do with my buds I'll bet it's got to do with float level adjustment.

            There is not a lot of leeway there and while mine looked good by eyeball, they were too high by 3 or 4 mm which was definitely enough to push it to the lean side of performance.

            I'll bet dollars to donuts that's the major culprit and we are going to have to pull those puppies off for a good old look see.

            Don't dispair if mine can get sorted, yours surely can be fixxed too.

            Cheers matey,
            spyug
            Anything is possible.....

            but the carbs were fully cleaned, all O rings changed including the intake boots even put in new SS bolts, got the whole kit from cycleorings, the only ones I did not change are the ones on the choke tubes ?

            floats were all adjusted, well as best as I could, maybe I did not do such a good job and I could be off....

            she really has a hard time to stay at idle, especially after a hard run, say from light to light, and come to a stop, unless I am blipping the throttle, she will idle down so low, she will stall, and that is not a good thing...

            sitting in the driveway, after a new start, wait a bit, take choke off, she will sit and idle, all bloody day long, go figure...

            Originally posted by the schwartz View Post
            jeez that's a gorgeous bike. dont give up on it! i hope to have one of those someday.

            hope you have some luck figuring it out!
            your in luck,,,,you can get mine,,,,going cheap right now.....

            seriously, I am just peeved off right now with the bike and the lack of idle and stalling, so I am sort of just ranting a bit....

            Thanks for the compliment, and hopefully I will get her issues sorted out, and keep her for a wee bit longer....

            .

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              #36
              1/2 price sale

              Half of what it is worth, or half of what you've got into it?

              That looks like a good gift for my brother in TO.

              Don't give up on it. You have invested far too much sweat equity to let it all go now.
              '83 GS650G
              '83 GS550es (didn't like the colours in the 80's, but they've grown on me)

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                #37
                i mean, if it's really aggravating you, i could, you know, just come get it out of your hair. just as a favor. you don't even have to pay for my gas.

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                  #38
                  Originally posted by BigD_83 View Post
                  Half of what it is worth, or half of what you've got into it?

                  That looks like a good gift for my brother in TO.

                  Don't give up on it. You have invested far too much sweat equity to let it all go now.
                  Originally posted by the schwartz View Post
                  i mean, if it's really aggravating you, i could, you know, just come get it out of your hair. just as a favor. you don't even have to pay for my gas.
                  Between the 2 of you guys, seems I would owe your guys.....

                  I will just hold onto it for now.....

                  and I really hope I can get to the bottom of the issue

                  Thanks for the vote of confidence.....

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                    #39
                    I agree with Spyug. Sounds like a carb issue.

                    BUT...as I understand it, dropping low (bogging) on idle points to running rich. The problem gets worse as it gets hot; suggests richness also, as lean conditions generally result in racing idles. Of course, it could also be fuel starved.

                    What results did you get back from your plug chops of a while back?
                    '83 GS650G
                    '83 GS550es (didn't like the colours in the 80's, but they've grown on me)

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                      #40
                      Unfortunately no plug chops done, have not had the time as of yet....

                      Got a few other things going on, and the bike is not getting the attention I need to give it right now unfortunately

                      Hopefully things will settle down a bit soon, and I will be able to devote more time to remedy this problem...

                      Thanks for all the input

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                        #41
                        Hey GK. I had the same issue with my bike before the rebuild.

                        It was like the bike was dying. Power loss and stalling at red lights.

                        New plugs and caps took care of it for me. I have the original coils and wires.

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                          #42
                          Thanks GT

                          I have installed new plugs, and trimmed each lead wire, and put the caps back on, and added a bit of di-electric grease to each as well.

                          I ordered new caps, but no one has the correct ones, mine are long like 4 inches or so all the ones I kept getting are short ones 2 inch or so....so I had to keep the old caps...

                          mine just wont hold idle, she just goes lower and lower, and gets below 1000 and craps out, like she just won't stay at idle, even on say a downhill grade and in first gear, I get a feeling as if it will konk out at any time.....and it almost happens....

                          .

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                            #43
                            Are these they?

                            Z1 Enterprises specializes in quality Motorcycle parts for Honda, Kawasaki, Suzuki and Yamaha Classic Japanese motorcycles from the 1970's and 1980's.

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                              #44
                              yup.....and this is how they compare to what my original ones look like.....








                              I even got them replaced with XD05F and VD05F


                              all are short......they don't have the long ones....


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                                #45
                                Dang it. Can't go with the long straight caps? Too short?

                                I know you've thought through this. There's got to be a solution though. Hmmm...

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