Getting ready to dump in trash

[chuck hahn]

Roger..I dont think he jhas crossed up the wires. In the original post he nstated that he done all the work etc etc and the bike ran fine..then sat for 2 months and now wont start. if he never changed anything ( other than its idle time ) there shouldnt be an issue with crossed wires.

He needs to learn how a cold GS starts and not over due it..which is what I am trying to decipher by asking him theses questions.

[myown550]

Yes sir she ran, but never on all 4 of the start i always had to wait like 5 min and then she's run on 4 i can always tell on the throttle. One thing i forgot to mention is when she runs there was always rusty water or condensation of some sort coming out from the exhaust where it connects with the left saide exhaust?

[chuck hahn]

OK now I got the picture.

1..You wont feel any "appreciable" draft from the upper airbox with your hand..so dont worry about that.

2..Put the filter in and button up the airbox lid.

3..Remove 1 plug at a time and clean it..repeat on all 4 cylinders.

4..Go down to each carb bowl and put a rag under it. Crack open the drains on each carb and see if they all are flowing gas.

5..If not, tap on each bowl with a screwdriver that didnt flow gas. This may free up a stuck float..repeat the drain test.

6..If all checks out ok, then full choke, no throttle, and start.

[chuck hahn]

Until it warms up ..like for 5 or 10 minutes minimum..theres gonna be condensation in the pipes. Short 5 minute runs doesnt get the exhaust hot enough to evaporate the water, so it leaks out around the exhaust gaskets..which is telling me that the exhaust gasket collars are loose or the gaskets themselves need replaced.

[myown550]

OK now I got the picture.

1..You wont feel any "appreciable" draft from the upper airbox with your hand..so dont worry about that.

2..Put the filter in and button up the airbox lid.

3..Remove 1 plug at a time and clean it..repeat on all 4 cylinders.

4..Go down to each carb bowl and put a rag under it. Crack open the drains on each carb and see if they all are flowing gas.

5..If not, tap on each bowl with a screwdriver that didnt flow gas. This may free up a stuck float..repeat the drain test.

6..If all checks out ok, then full choke, not throttle, and start.

I have done that, i used the clear hose method and all of them were filled according to the float level settings, The float needles are new. I even adjusted the floats so that the bowls can fill to the top and still nothing.

[chuck hahn]

Got rubber plugs over each pilot jet?? that will make the carbs suck too much fuel and do the same as an over choked condition.

[Steve]

I see your location now. Would Saturday or Sunday be better for you?

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[myown550]

Got rubber plugs over each pilot jet?? that will make the carbs suck too much fuel and do the same as an over choked condition.

Yes sir brand new ones. I have fully done the carbs by the book. I changed all o'rings and soaked them more than 5 times. They are spotless. The one thing i would like to mention is the new float needles that i purchased are somewhat longer than the original ones that were in there, meaning when they sit the top sticks out a bit more making the floats sit higher. So that being said in order to adjust the floats i had to raise the thingy quite a bit. They are however set properly but would something like that give me problems?

[chuck hahn]

Yes..the longer float needles means that the stock float height settings are null and void. So what was wrong with the OEM ones? what you need to do is either out the OEM ones back in, or measure the two and find out what the diffence is. Since the NEW ones are longer, that means that float height is now gonna be LESS that the stock setting. I say have Steve come over and help you with the math. He will have it going in just a short time.. Now we are getting to the real problem with the carbs!!! you switched up float needles..

[myown550]

Yes..the longer float needles means that the stock float height settings are null and void. So what was wrong with the OEM ones? what you need to do is either out the OEM ones back in, or measure the two and find out what the diffence is. Since the NEW ones are longer, that means that float height is now gonna be LESS that the stock setting. I say have Steve come over and help you with the math. He will have it going in just a short time.. Now we are getting to the real problem with the carbs!!! you switched up float needles..

Yes the new ones are slighlty longer, but the guy at the dealer told me they work on 550, 650, 750 and 850. My original ones were shorter but the spring thingy was longer, these new ones are just longer with a shorter spring but when i put them next to each other you can tell right away the new one is longer.
Steve i will keep you informed if i dont get it running soon i'll let you know. I really am hoping to do this myself.

[chuck hahn]

If i was there helping you. I would put the originals in, recheck the float hts and try to start the bike..do you agree Steve???

[myown550]

If i was there helping you. I would put the originals in, recheck the float hts and try to start the bike..do you agree Steve???

I guess i can try as i have the carbs off right now. The reason i changed them is because on 2 of them the little spring was really soft, 1 was corroded and did not bounce and the other was stuck inside.

[chuck hahn]

Soak them again over night and in the morning use some tweezers and try working them in and out to work them looser. The function of them is this. if the float height is just a little too high, they will compress a bit sort of like a shock absorber does its job. Keeps a little upward pressure on them..follow me?

[myown550]

Soak them again over night and in the morning use some tweezers and try working them in and out to work them looser. The function of them is this. if the float height is just a little too high, they will compress a bit sort of like a shock absorber does its job. Keeps a little upward pressure on them..follow me?

Even with the floats being adjusted to specs?

[chuck hahn]

Not the entire carbs.. I meant the original float needles. Resoak them and work the plunger thing up and down on them real good to see if they get better.

And yes..even to specs, they are compressed just a bit...like a shock absorber does when you let the car down off the jack. doesnt bottom out, but provides the cushioning effect.