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    #91
    Originally posted by cp___32 View Post
    I'm doing an install on my 1980 GS 550 L and I had a few questions. One involves this mod. Hopefully someone can offer some insight. I cut the two O/W wires feeding into the green plug inside the headlight. I soldered them together so the loop back to wherever they came from.
    OK That is mod #1 of the process. It makes sure that the O/W which is coming from the fuse box powers the whole IGNITION circuit.

    From the factory the O/W from the fusebox only direct to the Kill Switch and no where else. After going through the Kill Switch the O/W is used to power both coils and the ignitor.Anytime you do a coil relay mod or install the SSPB the switching of the O/W is no longer done by the Kill Switch. The Kill switch is now the trigger input signal for the relay or SSPB.

    By making this jumper the entire O/W is powered if the SSPB IGNITION circuit can get triggered .

    Next, I followed what Pos suggested and put a jumper wire from the orange hot lead running to the brake light switch to the solid orange wire which is on the back side of that green plug that had its O/W supply wires cut in Step 1.
    Step #2 is to power the Kill switch which was severed from the harness with change #1. You want to power the Kill switch with O/G. O/G is the Signal circuit. The wire might be O on the switch side but make sure the harness side is O/G. This way the kill switch can be activated only with the IGN SW on which is required to activate O/G.


    It's Step 3 that I'm confused with. I looked at the color coded diagram as well as the diagram above.

    It says to connect the output from the kill switch (O/W) to the G/W wire. The diagram above shows the G/W (and R/W) dead ending at that plug. Aren't those supposed to connect to the stator on one end? The G/W wire goes from the stator connector up to a white plug on the left side of the bike and that runs up to the headlight switch area (not a dead end). Do I splice into that wire? Do I cut it and not care where it heads and simply solder the O/W kill switch output onto it instead?
    If you updated your R/R to remove the stator loop to the headlamp switch then you will have freed up two wires in your harness, Lg/W and a W/R. They are no longer are connected to the stator loop. You should have the cut and free at the R/R side and you can just cut them off the headlamp connector here as well.This is convenient to use to route the output of the Kill Switch back to the SSPB or to a Relay with a more common Coil Relay Mod.

    In the directions for the install of the SSPB I suggested using the Lg/W as the trigger signal and you will see that it is used on the SSPB side to connect to a WHITE pigtail which is connected to Input pin #3. I have the OEM wire labeled as G/W in the SSPB schematic so assume that G/W (green /white)and Lg/W (light green/white)are the same.


    I also don't know what that line with the headlight mods part means. The three orange dots with the red line across them; what am I supposed to do there?
    A orange DOT means a connection. If there is a line between then that means a jumper wire. If the dots are immediately adjacent to each other assume there is a jumper there as well.

    Let's start with solving that problem and I'll do some more reading on the Molex connections in the meantime.
    What may be a little confusing is the various cuts for just the kill switch and then the other cuts to remove additional connectors that are in fact unnecessary. If you are having a hard time following the cuts and jumpers make sure you understand the ones in this thread and then compared to the ones in the headlamp mod thread.

    If it is not obvious from the mods, in both cases shown, the entire headlamp connector is removed to improve the amount of voltage to the headlamp.
    Last edited by posplayr; 06-14-2015, 11:04 PM.

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      #92
      Ahhhh ok. That makes a whole lot more sense now. I took your advice on the Polaris R/R and have one that's currently somewhere between California and my house. Once that arrives I'll install it and then revisit the concepts of the headlight mod and hopefully it becomes much more clear. Funny thing is I told a coworker about the Polaris R/R and he looked confused. He said that when he works on bikes he generally puts an R/R from an R1 on them. I had been looking for a Polaris one that was speced out in many posts here and accidentally came across one from an R1. Turns out they're from the same mfr and look identical. Not sure if the fine details of the electronics are different between models but it's funny how common that part is because of its reliability. I also ordered the triumph harness for it so my install will be nice and clean.

      Busy weekend, and the R/R isn't here yet so I'll report back once I get back to it.

      Thanks Pos!

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        #93
        I think there needs to be a speed reading limit in the electrical section. Most of my last replies were largely repeats of the same description. It is always helpful to get some specific help if you are having somewhat of a mental block.

        unfortunately this left hand switch mod has gotten more complicated by the variety of harnesses and now with the desire go improve the headlamp circuit at the same time. You can make it even worse by not using the oem factory shematic.

        Despite the complications, most will agree it is not that complicated once you are done. But then most things are that way

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          #94
          Originally posted by posplayr View Post
          Despite the complications, most will agree it is not that complicated once you are done. But then most things are that way
          This is exactly it. Now that it's done, the mod is quite easy.
          With electrical especially, sometimes the slightest change in how an instruction is explained can make all the difference in understanding. My biggest issue was going between your 1100 wiring diagram, the '82 550M wiring and the wiring for the '80 GS550. Once I thoroughly studied the intent of the mod and each of the wiring diagrams it all became clear.

          I also managed to get the SSPB wired in. My current battery is pooched so I put the acid into my new battery and threw it on the charger tonight. I hope to turn the key tomorrow and see what happens.

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            #95
            Originally posted by cp___32 View Post
            This is exactly it. Now that it's done, the mod is quite easy.
            With electrical especially, sometimes the slightest change in how an instruction is explained can make all the difference in understanding. My biggest issue was going between your 1100 wiring diagram, the '82 550M wiring and the wiring for the '80 GS550. Once I thoroughly studied the intent of the mod and each of the wiring diagrams it all became clear.

            I also managed to get the SSPB wired in. My current battery is pooched so I put the acid into my new battery and threw it on the charger tonight. I hope to turn the key tomorrow and see what happens.
            Good job; If you have any recommendations on how to explain it clearer, I'm all ears

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              #96
              Just a quick reply cause I am at work at the moment but when I connected the fresh battery and hit the key I got a green light plus a flashing fault light and corresponding beep.

              For the install I just capped the wires off the molex that correspond to additional accessories or future growth as I have no need for extra loops at the moment.. So power wise everything is connected the same as the stock fuse panel was.
              I ran a fresh wire for the kill switch because on my bike the g/w and r/w wires aren't routed through the headlight and aren't as easily accessible so I left them alone.

              I installed my Polaris r/r as per the sspb instructions using a triumph harness.

              The only thing I am really wondering about is the frame ground. I used the mount for the battery box and I am thinking that since it has a rubber grommet it might be mucking things up. The grommet has a sleeve and the bolt connects to the frame but maybe another choice would be better. Also does it matter if the ground bolt is stainless?
              Thanks all

              P.S. I will be relocating the ground to a non painted direct connection to the frame and subbing the stainless bolt for a proper steel one just to be sure. But if anything else jumps out please let me know.
              I will report back shortly.
              Last edited by Guest; 07-07-2015, 09:55 AM.

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                #97
                Originally posted by cp___32 View Post
                Just a quick reply cause I am at work at the moment but when I connected the fresh battery and hit the key I got a green light plus a flashing fault light and corresponding beep.

                For the install I just capped the wires off the molex that correspond to additional accessories or future growth as I have no need for extra loops at the moment.. So power wise everything is connected the same as the stock fuse panel was.
                I ran a fresh wire for the kill switch because on my bike the g/w and r/w wires aren't routed through the headlight and aren't as easily accessible so I left them alone.

                I installed my Polaris r/r as per the sspb instructions using a triumph harness.

                The only thing I am really wondering about is the frame ground. I used the mount for the battery box and I am thinking that since it has a rubber grommet it might be mucking things up. The grommet has a sleeve and the bolt connects to the frame but maybe another choice would be better. Also does it matter if the ground bolt is stainless?
                Thanks all

                P.S. I will be relocating the ground to a non painted direct connection to the frame and subbing the stainless bolt for a proper steel one just to be sure. But if anything else jumps out please let me know.
                I will report back shortly.
                You have a short. That is what the red light and buzzer are warning about. Recheck the outputs; there is nothing on the inputs of the SSPB that would cause a short. Of course if there is a short on an output and the circuit is off, the red light buzzer will com on when you switch it on.

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                  #98
                  Thanks to posplayr and his engineering, i now have a great electical system minus the horn, which is probably self-induced. Other than an inop horn, i have lights kill switch, indicators, and spark. So a little trouble shooting on the horn and i'll be on the road shortly. I gotta go help my buddy put his savage back together in the morning or i'd chase my tail with the horn circuit. I think my horn circuit is causing my fault warning since i've checked all of the other systems and they all work. Thanks posplayr for the box and the help!

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                    #99
                    Originally posted by 60ratrod View Post
                    Thanks to posplayr and his engineering, i now have a great electical system minus the horn, which is probably self-induced. Other than an inop horn, i have lights kill switch, indicators, and spark. So a little trouble shooting on the horn and i'll be on the road shortly. I gotta go help my buddy put his savage back together in the morning or i'd chase my tail with the horn circuit. I think my horn circuit is causing my fault warning since i've checked all of the other systems and they all work. Thanks posplayr for the box and the help!
                    I have also benefitted from his research and input. Bright and generous guy. The forum is a better place because of him.

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                      Totally. He has been a huge help offline. He has become one of those that i hold in high regards with a lot of respect.

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                        Hi all:

                        If anyone has installed the sspb on a 1000, I was wondering about the wiring change in the headlight bucket?
                        Got everything wired up right, I think, except for that.
                        What color wires do you need to use, in the bucket?







                        I know Jim isn't accepting e-mail or I would have contacted him.

                        Thanks in advance!!
                        Last edited by gsgeezer; 11-18-2019, 01:54 PM.
                        http://www.thegsresources.com/_forum...ine=1352313915
                        1979 GS1000

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                          Originally posted by gsgeezer View Post
                          Hi all:

                          If anyone has installed the sspb on a 1000, I was wondering about the wiring change in the headlight bucket?
                          Got everything wired up right, I think, except for that.
                          What color wires do you need to use, in the bucket?







                          I know Jim isn't accepting e-mail or I would have contacted him.

                          Thanks in advance!!
                          You can still send an email to: solidstatepowerbox@gmail.com

                          I'll take a look later tonight.

                          In the meantime send me an email.

                          I guess the webhosting for the installation manual quite so please look at so I this is the installation manual.

                          Download a copy of the install guide. It is a 13 page pdf file.
                          Preliminary SSPB Installation Manual
                          Which connections do you have so far?

                          SSPB_MolexPinout.jpg
                          Last edited by posplayr; 11-18-2019, 02:10 PM.

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                            Also from manual

                            SSPB_Functional.jpg

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                              Thank you, Sir!!

                              I have it over at friends garage, where we did everything but the headlight bucket connections.

                              He was helping me yesterday, since he solders for living, and we were not sure about the yellow wire from the
                              harness to the connection in the bucket. The connection from the sspb to the starter relay was also done.

                              When he texted me last night, after I left, I realize we forgot the yellow wire connecting the ignition switch.
                              He wasn't sure because of stock wire colors in the bucket, I think. I left him with the manual and sent him a copy of the GS1000 manual so he could see the diagram.

                              When connected the fault light came on but no ignition. Then he thought that the ignition wasn't connected....

                              I will get back to you privately, thanks again POSPLAYER!
                              http://www.thegsresources.com/_forum...ine=1352313915
                              1979 GS1000

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                                The Yellow pigtail on Molex Pin 4 of the SSPB is the START input (from kill switch push button start) in order to cutout the headlamp during startup. As indicated in the table connect to the Y/G (Yellow/Green) You can easily find this wire at the solenoid. It looks like this is connected correctly.

                                The other signal that is probably confusing you is the IGN ON signal which also comes from the kill switch to indicate the ignition should be on. This involves the O/G output of the kill switch.

                                You can route a separate wire from kill switch to the SSPB , but there is already one available (Lg/W) when you got rid of the stator headlamp loop.

                                This diagram in the manual shows a typical set of changes. Your may be slightly different but the wire colors will be the same.

                                SSPB_KillSwitchMod.jpg
                                Last edited by posplayr; 11-18-2019, 11:55 PM.

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