GS1100EZ/ED Replacement : Red Universal Digital Gear Indicator

[posplayr]

Does it infer the gear by comparing revs and speed? The SportVue Hud did that, and sucked at it. I disconnected the rpm sensor because it was so annoyingly bad. At low revs, it couldn't sense enough difference in wheel speed to guess the correct gear. Sometimes wrong by 2. It also guessed neutral if the clutch was in for too long (~500ms). Hopefully working from digital gauges works better, but it will still be clueless whenever the clutch isn't fully engaged. The stock GS reading of the shift drum position is far superior.

Still, inferring from speed and RPM is better than nothing. I'm curious to hear how this one works out.

This one does inferential gear indication.

http://motogadget.com/de/digitalinstrumente/ganganzeige-sureshift/sureshift-184.html

I attached a picture that I did a while back while using my Innovate data logger. after I got the RPM sensing sorted out, it and Speed worked well to infer the gear. As a general rule the only time this should be hard is at low speed, anywhere else it is incompetence.

[Rob S.]

Plenty of them to see at Naked GoldWings.

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Holy s_yte! What a site!

[Dogma]

This one does inferential gear indication.

http://motogadget.com/de/digitalinstrumente/ganganzeige-sureshift/sureshift-184.html

I attached a picture that I did a while back while using my Innovate data logger. after I got the RPM sensing sorted out, it and Speed worked well to infer the gear. As a general rule the only time this should be hard is at low speed, anywhere else it is incompetence.

Well, with the big shafty I found myself at that low speed quite often. At high speed, I can infer the gear from speed and revs myself. Quite often, without looking at either gauge. In other words, when I needed it to work, it didn't. All the other times, it worked sorta OK. For me, it wasn't worth having.

To be fair, my experience was with one product that had unknown precision (ungraduated, auto-scaling bar graph) and a slow sampling rate (~2/sec). I have no doubt that better implementations of the method exist.

[posplayr]

Well, with the big shafty I found myself at that low speed quite often. At high speed, I can infer the gear from speed and revs myself. Quite often, without looking at either gauge. In other words, when I needed it to work, it didn't. All the other times, it worked sorta OK. For me, it wasn't worth having.

To be fair, my experience was with one product that had unknown precision (ungraduated, auto-scaling bar graph) and a slow sampling rate (~2/sec). I have no doubt that better implementations of the method exist.

Well not to get too far off course here. This $5 unit doesn't do in inferential displays. It switches based on which wire is grounded and it looks good. I mean bright with little backdrop of the other unlit segments. An I was surprised about it changing colors to Green for Neutral.

It is amazing what the Chinese produce for such a low price, of course we have to consider that it is all Chinese government subsidized. Which in the short term is good, but long term not so good.

[CivilRock]

Just ordered one. I'm going to see if I can put it under the smoke lense where the green Neutral light is in my Bandit gauge cluster. That would be awesome if it works.

Thanks for the tip.

-Kevin

[CivilRock]

So I ordered this on the 18th and they estimated it would be here March 24th or something.

Got it today 10 days later.

Looks promising, and exactly what I was thinking of for my Bandit Cluster. It's definitely more compact than the stock unit. Not sure if I'm going to put this in my custom panel or try and fit it behind the dash where the Neutral light is. That would be trick.

Now all I need is Jim to find me a similar sized digital oil temp readout and I'll be good to go.

Thanks for the tip man. I got rid of one check panel, only to replace it with my (probably janky) version of it.

-Kevin

[posplayr]

With a push button on the hand control you could cycle through these displays.

DROK Fahrenheit Scale 0.56" DC 12V Digital Car Clock Thermometer Voltmeter 3in1 Red LED Auto Gauges DS18b20 Probe

http://www.amazon.com/DROK-Fahrenheit-Digital-Thermometer-Voltmeter/dp/B00E7O9UWE/ref=sr_1_sc_2?s=industrial&ie=UTF8&qid=1393647997&sr=1-2-spell&keywords=LED+temperatur+gauge

Red 3 ½ 0.30inch 0-200V Digital Gauge DC Volt Meter LED Time/Temperature/Voltage

http://www.amazon.com/0-30inch-0-200V-Digital-Temperature-Voltage/dp/B00EY4RSIU/ref=sr_1_5?s=industrial&ie=UTF8&qid=1393648230&sr=1-5&keywords=led+temperature+gauge

How small you want it? This would actually fit inside of a gauge. (1.25"x.39"x.51")
DROK Mini Digital DC Car Clock 0-200V Voltage Temperature 3in1 Panel Meter 0.28" Red LED Display

http://www.amazon.com/DROK-Digital-Voltage-Temperature-Display/dp/B00H43V2HQ/ref=sr_1_18?s=industrial&ie=UTF8&qid=1393648422&sr=1-18&keywords=led+temperature+gauge

I'll be installing my gear indicator as well, but waiting on more parts. Will swap out all gauge lights and put a PWM dash light dimmer right below the LED Gear display.

You open up the little box and the pod and PCB card are quite small and just fit in that OEM gauge cox.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/0-100-12V-5A-Dimmer-Brightness-Adjusting-Adjustable-Control-For-Led-Strip-Light-/181232841723?pt=US_Lighting_Parts_and_Accessories&var=&hash=item2a3251b3fb

[CivilRock]

I just ordered the Fahrenheit version in red for $18 shipped. I'm not positive, but it looks like this one is the same guts, but with the black plastic trim. I plan on only using the guts.

I have no idea if it's going to work, but I'm thinking of putting the gear indicator where the Neutral light is, and this one where the temp light is. I'm talking about under the tinted plastic on the Bandit instrument cluster I have.

If it works, I'll be a genius. If it doesn't, I'll figure something else out.

I'll also be shopping for some sort of buttons, but not sure which way I want to go with that yet. I want to see if it will work first. I'm also hoping that I can use the GS oil temp sender instead of the built in one they have.

[posplayr]

I just ordered the Fahrenheit version in red for $18 shipped. I'm not positive, but it looks like this one is the same guts, but with the black plastic trim. I plan on only using the guts.

I have no idea if it's going to work, but I'm thinking of putting the gear indicator where the Neutral light is, and this one where the temp light is. I'm talking about under the tinted plastic on the Bandit instrument cluster I have.

If it works, I'll be a genius. If it doesn't, I'll figure something else out.

I'll also be shopping for some sort of buttons, but not sure which way I want to go with that yet. I want to see if it will work first. I'm also hoping that I can use the GS oil temp sender instead of the built in one they have.

See picture for the approximate size of the smallest display in a GS1100ED tach face. It is very dooable as there is nothing behind teh face except you have to be careful with how you cut the plastic and gauge face. Use masking tape as a guide and maybe drill the corners first.

[CivilRock]

After I posted this I looked again at the pictures and the "Mini" is about 20cm smaller so I canceled the order and ordered the Mini/Metric one.

[posplayr]

After I posted this I looked again at the pictures and the "Mini" is about 20cm smaller so I canceled the order and ordered the Mini/Metric one.

It is amazing what you can find on ebay. I'm being amazed every day.

Here are RFID reader devices for not much more than $6 per set.

I lookup the primary part and it is $5+ from digikey. So everything else I'm getting for $1

http://www.ebay.com/itm/251249274375?_trksid=p2055120.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT

[CivilRock]

It is amazing what you can find on ebay.

I do love the internets. Funny, but I bought a computer in 1997 for the sole purpose of finding a replacement tachometer for my VX800. I found one for 1/3 cost and declared the internet a useful tool.

I wasn't thinking of the Tachometer faceplate, but that's a great idea. (gotta love the forums too). I was thinking of taking apart the tinted lower part and substituting the lights out with these tiny little gems. I'm not sure they're going to fit now that I'm looking at my own picture.

I've got roughly 60% of the tach face open for other uses, and my redline is surely not 14,000 RPM. I'll be interested to see what's behind that guy and how much room there is.

BTW, The Bandit clocks I bought had 23,000 miles on them. When I opened up the speedo to remove the spiders, I took the liberty to set it back to 30.

[posplayr]

I would be real tempted to put at least one is not more LED displays in that big thing. I would also paint over everything past the 12 or get an 1100 tach.

[CivilRock]

Where did you get this picture? Is this your project? Did somebody already put a display behind the faceplate? I'd like to see a project if this was already done.

-Kevin

[posplayr]

Where did you get this picture? Is this your project? Did somebody already put a display behind the faceplate? I'd like to see a project if this was already done.

-Kevin

No somebody here mentioned doing it; I requested pictures but I did not see them answer. So I measured a piece of tape and put it on the tach I had laying around. You have plenty of room in your tach for various options.

I would do it for Volts as digital is more accurate than analog, but I like my analog oil pressure gauge so the analog volt meter balances it out.