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    #31
    Originally posted by OldVet66 View Post
    Hold him to that or ask him if he has a megger. It shows megohm resistance under high voltage so you can tell if the insulating varnish is breaking down. You could probably get it tested by someone in your area for next to nothing by a company that deals in rewinding electric motors so you won't have to do this trial and error. The resistance check with a meter is only going to show up a direct short. My stator failed after a year of use after I installed a series R/R so this is a total crap shoot unless you test it with a megger or whatever the electronic equivalent is today. I didn't listen when they told me here that a dark color varnish meant it had overheated and would go bad. Don't accept one unless it is a medium dark amber color. You can still see all the individual wire windings through the varnish of a good one unless it is epoxy coated.
    Ok I copy this !! Thank you ....

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      #32
      Originally posted by lrgguy View Post
      Good to meet you Steve ... im Keith !!
      Wow that sounds awsome !! Im assuming this is all done through pay pal ?
      Unfortunately I dont have one of those accounts set up . ... Ill check with the girlfriend tonight and see if she could help me get it worked out ...
      That would be the preferred method.

      You don't have to have a credit card, just a bank account. You set it up for direct transfer. When you use PayPal, it will draw the funds out of your bank account. Yeah, it's not quite as 'secure' as using a credit card, but it is available.

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        #33
        Originally posted by Steve View Post
        That would be the preferred method.

        You don't have to have a credit card, just a bank account. You set it up for direct transfer. When you use PayPal, it will draw the funds out of your bank account. Yeah, it's not quite as 'secure' as using a credit card, but it is available.

        .
        I tried my banks chequing account first ..it didnt work !! , I believe I even called paypal in regards to this , and they said yes in the states you can do this . But not in canada ... this was a couple yrs back !! Perhaps it has changed ..
        Ill look into it , again ty & you will most likely be hearing from me soon !!

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          #34
          Originally posted by Steve View Post
          That would be the preferred method.

          You don't have to have a credit card, just a bank account. You set it up for direct transfer. When you use PayPal, it will draw the funds out of your bank account. Yeah, it's not quite as 'secure' as using a credit card, but it is available.

          .
          This bank to paypal method no longer works for me (though it used to)- many emails to paypal got replies that were of no value, so I finally gave up . Apparently, paypal no longer likes me and my bank. No problem, every wall can be circumvented!
          1981 gs650L

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            #35
            Originally posted by tom203 View Post
            This bank to paypal method no longer works for me (though it used to)- many emails to paypal got replies that were of no value, so I finally gave up . Apparently, paypal no longer likes me and my bank. No problem, every wall can be circumvented!
            Yeah im on my paypal now Tom ... I remembered the password from 2 yrs ago hahaha .. and yeah its not allowing me to add my chequing account . If it did allow me it saysit could take 5-6 days for the money to appear in my paypal from my chequing account .. regardless it keeps saying error!! Itjust seams as though every path I take these last few weeks end with a cliff !!! Hahaha

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              #36
              "....every path I take these last few weeks end with a cliff !!! "

              Keep at it -your persistence is a good example to others.
              One of my favorite songs - "Many Rivers to Cross" by jimmy cliff circa 1970
              1981 gs650L

              "We are all born ignorant, but you have to work hard to stay stupid" Ben Franklin

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                #37
                Originally posted by OldVet66 View Post
                Hold him to that or ask him if he has a megger. It shows megohm resistance under high voltage so you can tell if the insulating varnish is breaking down. You could probably get it tested by someone in your area for next to nothing by a company that deals in rewinding electric motors so you won't have to do this trial and error. The resistance check with a meter is only going to show up a direct short. My stator failed after a year of use after I installed a series R/R so this is a total crap shoot unless you test it with a megger or whatever the electronic equivalent is today. I didn't listen when they told me here that a dark color varnish meant it had overheated and would go bad. Don't accept one unless it is a medium dark amber color. You can still see all the individual wire windings through the varnish of a good one unless it is epoxy coated.
                Note that the leg to ground tests in the revised phase b stator tests are equivalent to a "poor man's megger" test. There are many ways for the stator to fail. If for example the leg to leg voltages are high and even it does not mean there is no short to ground. The leg to ground tests would act as a 70vac megger test equivalent.

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                  #38
                  This stator is cooked !! Its literally black !!

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                    #39
                    After pulling back the black wiring cover I see that my stator is actually a 3 wire stator , someone just sautered 2yellow to the main yallow coming from the stator and did the same to the blue/white .. I guess to feed both the regulator and rectifier....

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                      #40
                      Originally posted by lrgguy View Post
                      After pulling back the black wiring cover I see that my stator is actually a 3 wire stator , someone just sautered 2yellow to the main yallow coming from the stator and did the same to the blue/white .. I guess to feed both the regulator and rectifier....
                      3 phase is always 3 wires.

                      People also use the stator for a headlamp cutout. Headamp only comes on when charging is sufficient to power a solenoid through a rectifying diode. That may also be a reason.

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                        #41
                        Originally posted by lrgguy View Post
                        This stator is cooked !! Its literally black !!
                        Guess why?



                        It is the result of a Shunt R/R shorting the thing to reduce it's output. This only works if the bike can carry away the heat that is produced.

                        Depending upon how big your engine is, how much oil you have in it, how you are riding it, etc... it may or maynot be able to get rid of the heat and avoid turning the stator int oa crispy critter.


                        The SERIES R/R acts like a light switch and just turns disconnects the stator from the electrical system (inside the R/R). That way the stator just doesn't produce power, as there is no load to dump it into.

                        This is teh difference between SHUNT and SERIES R/R's

                        Get a SERIES SH-775

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                          #42
                          Originally posted by posplayr View Post
                          Guess why?



                          It is the result of a Shunt R/R shorting the thing to reduce it's output. This only works if the bike can carry away the heat that is produced.

                          Depending upon how big your engine is, how much oil you have in it, how you are riding it, etc... it may or maynot be able to get rid of the heat and avoid turning the stator int oa crispy critter.


                          The SERIES R/R acts like a light switch and just turns disconnects the stator from the electrical system (inside the R/R). That way the stator just doesn't produce power, as there is no load to dump it into.

                          This is teh difference between SHUNT and SERIES R/R's

                          Get a SERIES SH-775
                          Makes sence !! Thanks for taking the time to explain that to me ... as for how I ride

                          FULL THROTTLE IN EVERY GEAR !!

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                            #43
                            Originally posted by lrgguy View Post
                            Makes sence !! Thanks for taking the time to explain that to me ... as for how I ride

                            FULL THROTTLE IN EVERY GEAR !!
                            That puts the most stress on the cooling system and the most stress on the stator.

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                              #44
                              Originally posted by posplayr View Post
                              That puts the most stress on the cooling system and the most stress on the stator.
                              Yeah I kind of assumed that it would .. lol

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                                #45
                                Reagrdless off the colour of the 3 wires coming from the stator , they are all the same thing ???
                                Stator that was installed had a green wire , yellow wire & a blue/white ..
                                New stator all 3 wires are yellow .. so just need to sauder together old colour coated leads to yellow wires and heat shrink over joints ? Am I correct ?
                                Last edited by Guest; 06-01-2014, 11:33 AM.

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