Spark plug wire ripped... OUCH! What now?

[vcalvarese]

One more stupid question

With the dyna wires, as I understand it - you have to cut the wires in half from Z1, then add the ends on the bare end of the wire. Adding the ends would only be necessary if I was to upgrade to the green coil correct? Otherwise it is just bare ends being epoxied into the stock coil?

Thank you Thank you Thank you Thank you Thank you

[vcalvarese]

Oh and would I need a crimper tool to get those other ends on it?

[Missile99]

One more stupid question

With the dyna wires, as I understand it - you have to cut the wires in half from Z1, then add the ends on the bare end of the wire. Adding the ends would only be necessary if I was to upgrade to the green coil correct? Otherwise it is just bare ends being epoxied into the stock coil?

Thank you Thank you Thank you Thank you Thank you

This is correct. You would carefully stuff the bare end on your old coils and epoxy in, leaving the coil ends in the package. It's easy to cut and crimp. You could get by with vise grips, pliers to crimp although a good crimper is handy to have and only $10 at HF for a decent ratcheting one.

[OldVet66]

These are what i'm looking at using with the stock coil on the GS1100 right?
http://www.z1enterprises.com/ItemDet...9&item=DYDW200

No, I would get the 7mm suppression wire, they come with boots so you don't need your caps. If you are using the Dyna green coils, I would get the 8mm suppression wire and turn about 1/2" of the wire center up toward the top of the crimp on tower connector before you crimp it (it fits in the tower correctly if you use a crimper).

[vcalvarese]

I'm leaning towards getting the green coils. Are they sold in pairs for 130ish dollars, or is that for the individual coils? Can anyone else confirm that 8mm suppression wires are the right choice? It seems like the majority of you are recommending the 7mm copper core.

[Nessism]

Updated Kawasaki coils w/7mm copper core wire and NGK plug caps from Z1. Wire is $.99/ft and caps are $2.24/each.

[vcalvarese]

What are those kawi coils from? I've been reading that you need to use 2 different caps?

[OldVet66]

I'm leaning towards getting the green coils. Are they sold in pairs for 130ish dollars, or is that for the individual coils? Can anyone else confirm that 8mm suppression wires are the right choice? It seems like the majority of you are recommending the 7mm copper core.

That is for the pair, what Z1 shows in the picture is what you get.

[vcalvarese]

Thanks ya'll for the advice!

I ended up getting this package -

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Dyna-Ignition-Coils-3-ohm-Dual-Output-DC1-1-Wires-DW-200-Suzuki-GS1100-GS-1100-/360713766863?pt=Motorcycles_Parts_Accessories&hash=item53fc3747cf&vxp=mtr

Seemed like the most recommended set of coils/wire here on the board, and ordering the package deal off ebay saved me like 50 bucks over z1.

Hopefully I didn't screw up and this will do the job and I can get my GS back on the road.

[vcalvarese]

Should I have gone all the way and got the Dyna S? Or is the stock ignition just fine if it's functioning ok?

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Dyna-S-Electronic-Ignition-Suzuki-GS550-GS750-GS850-GS1000-GS1100-77-78-79-80-81-/380382026185?pt=Motorcycles_Parts_Accessories&hash=item58908919c9&vxp=mtr

[Missile99]

If your stock ignition is good, no need to upgrade. As long as you're getting the spark signal and have good spark energy with your coils/wires then save your money for now. I got the Dyna-S when my ignitor croaked. There's no telling if this will ever happen to you. Since I had plenty to spend on other maintenance stuff, I would have held off.

On the other hand, the Dyna ignition would eliminate a potential problem. Maybe start a couple polls: one for who's on stock ignition vs. Dyna and another for how many would upgrade if their stock stuff is functioning okay.

[vcalvarese]

Ah, a poll -- good idea!

Going to check spark energy when I get the new coils and wires on the bike hopefully this weekend. Since the bike was running strong before the wires crumbled on me last week, I'm assuming the stock ignition is ok for now.

How did you know that your ignitor was bad?

[Missile99]

The bike was idling perfectly then just quit. I had zero spark, all four. I verified that my wiring was good from signal generator to ignitor, then to coils. Signal generator was within specified resistance so I narrowed the problem down to the ignitor.

[vcalvarese]

Oooook... So I started digging into the Dyna Coil project tonight.

My question is this -

The Dyna instructions say that the polarity doesn't matter on each coil. I have the wires from the harness that I disconnected from the stock coils marked 4,3,2,1 (looking from the airbox forward). The wires coming from the stock coils are marked 1, 4 and 2, 3 (also looking forward from the air box). When I install the green Dynas, which coils are connected to which cylinders?

So i'm assuming that if I connect wires 4 and 3 to the left coil, and 2 and 1 to the right coil (looking forward on the bike), that I am on the right track? Then I would just need direction as to which cylinder to connect the plug wires to?

Thanks in advance!!!!!!!!!

[Missile99]

The polarity that doesn't matter is the primary side, meaning the small wires (positive, ground) going to the coil from the ignitor (or Dyna-S). If you know what small signal wire is for the 2,3 vs. the 1,4 then you can hook that up to either terminal on the coil. Once you do that, run the plug wires for those cylinders. It will still be 1+4 off of one coil and 2+3 on another.