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    #1

    No Juice!

    Yup it's me AGAIN!
    I was out for a ride yesterday, the bike ran like a champ, until it didn't!
    A little background:
    The stator is new, the R/R is a new SH775 wired properly in the preferred (directly to the stator) way, the connections are not an issue, the battery is new, has been checked and shows the correct voltage, all of the previously mentioned items are less than 4000 kms old
    So here's what happened:
    I'd ridden a few hundred K's, rode to the next town south did some shopping, went for lunch, all was just freakin peachy.
    45 minutes from home I stopped for a rest (oddly enough at a rest stop!) when my break was over, turn the key .............. nothing!!!!
    I checked fuses, all of the other usual suspects, I carry extra fuses so I even went so far as to swap them all out one at a time just to be sure, battery has power etc ................
    There is no power, no lights, no turning over, no VROOM, VROOM, just plain nothing, the weather's great I wanna ride!
    Any suggestions? I know this has happened to someone out there in the GSR universe, what am I missing?
    As always any help is very appreciated.

    Thanks in advance
    Rod
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    #2
    Loose or dirty connection somewhere? you should be able to bump start the bike.
    Rob
    1983 1100ES, 98' ST1100, 02' DR-Z400E and a few other 'bits and pieces'
    Are you on the GSR Google Earth Map yet? http://www.thegsresources.com/_forum...d.php?t=170533

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      #3
      You again! Sounds like no power getting from battery up to main fuse. Just where did you wire in the positive output from the SH-775?
      1981 gs650L

      "We are all born ignorant, but you have to work hard to stay stupid" Ben Franklin

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        #4
        Originally posted by tom203 View Post
        You again! Sounds like no power getting from battery up to main fuse. Just where did you wire in the positive output from the SH-775?
        The R/R is wired directly to the battery with a resettable circuit breaker inline

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          #5
          Originally posted by rodgs1100es View Post
          The R/R is wired directly to the battery with a resettable circuit breaker inline
          A clue! Make sure that gizmo still works
          1981 gs650L

          "We are all born ignorant, but you have to work hard to stay stupid" Ben Franklin

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            #6
            Originally posted by tom203 View Post
            A clue! Make sure that gizmo still works
            +1. I would jump the circuit breaker and see if that sorts the issue.


            Mark
            1982 GS1100E
            1998 ZX-6R
            2005 KTM 450EXC

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              #7
              Who wants to take a bet, OP never used a volt meter?

              Hi Rod, I assume you got your SSPB, but probably not installed yet. The issue with that resettable fuse is it is likely to have higher than normal resistance. If you were fusing a load, it would be OK, but not between battery and R/R. If you check the voltage drops between your battery and R/R you should be able to see how much voltage drop there is. Use Revised Phase A procedure.
              Last edited by posplayr; 08-02-2014, 02:37 PM.

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                #8
                Have you checked the fluid level in your battery? If your previous failure boiled fluid out of the battery it may have been marginal and now it's dry. If so fill it with distilled water, not battery acid, it might bounce back. I don't bet, but very likely.
                http://www.thegsresources.com/_forum...ine=1440711157'78 GS1000E, Dyna-S ignition, Dyna Green Coils, K&N pods, Delkevic SS 4-1 exhaust, Dynojet Stage 3 jet kit, Russell SS Brake Lines, Progressive suspension, Compu-Fire series Regulator 55402 and Advmonster cree LED headlight conversion.

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                  #9
                  If he got a SSPB, he must have a voltmeter! So check for power at main fuse,then turn key on and check for power at any other fuse.
                  1981 gs650L

                  "We are all born ignorant, but you have to work hard to stay stupid" Ben Franklin

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                    #10
                    Originally posted by posplayr View Post
                    Who wants to take a bet, OP never used a volt meter?

                    Hi Rod, I assume you got your SSPB, but probably not installed yet. The issue with that resettable fuse is it is likely to have higher than normal resistance. If you were fusing a load, it would be OK, but not between battery and R/R. If you check the voltage drops between your battery and R/R you should be able to see how much voltage drop there is. Use Revised Phase A procedure.
                    No Jim I haven't received my SSPB as yet, it can take a while to get things from the US, I'm a fair way from the border so it often takes a day or so longer than to major centers.
                    I hope the reference to not using a volt meter wasn't directed to me, I can assure you that a volt meter is a constant go to tool for me, I do have some background in electronics.
                    As it turn's out after doing some further detective work, it was some truly poor and faulty wiring from a previous owner, not the first time I've had to undo some of the shoddy workmanship found on this bike.

                    I don't know the name of the person who perpetrated these wrongs but I most often refer to them as: "WHAT THE *&&*&*(*^^ WERE YOU THINKING!!!"
                    We've all had to do some road side patching to get us home but to leave this sort of a mess is just wrong on every level.

                    One's first reaction is that should fortune smile upon us and allow a meeting with this individual and I, retribution might be at hand.
                    However after some time and reflection, maybe it's karma's way of payback for a mess or two I might have left behind me, so problem solved for now, obligatory test ride done, all is once again peachy in GS land.
                    Thank you one and all for your time, suggestions and insights, the help is ALWAYS most appreciated.
                    Rod

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                      #11
                      One learns about members through reading their posts. Vague and uninformative posts lead to all sorts of speculation.
                      http://www.thegsresources.com/_forum...ine=1440711157'78 GS1000E, Dyna-S ignition, Dyna Green Coils, K&N pods, Delkevic SS 4-1 exhaust, Dynojet Stage 3 jet kit, Russell SS Brake Lines, Progressive suspension, Compu-Fire series Regulator 55402 and Advmonster cree LED headlight conversion.

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                        #12
                        Originally posted by rodgs1100es View Post
                        No Jim I haven't received my SSPB as yet, it can take a while to get things from the US, I'm a fair way from the border so it often takes a day or so longer than to major centers.
                        I hope the reference to not using a volt meter wasn't directed to me, I can assure you that a volt meter is a constant go to tool for me, I do have some background in electronics.
                        As it turn's out after doing some further detective work, it was some truly poor and faulty wiring from a previous owner, not the first time I've had to undo some of the shoddy workmanship found on this bike.

                        I don't know the name of the person who perpetrated these wrongs but I most often refer to them as: "WHAT THE *&&*&*(*^^ WERE YOU THINKING!!!"
                        We've all had to do some road side patching to get us home but to leave this sort of a mess is just wrong on every level.

                        One's first reaction is that should fortune smile upon us and allow a meeting with this individual and I, retribution might be at hand.
                        However after some time and reflection, maybe it's karma's way of payback for a mess or two I might have left behind me, so problem solved for now, obligatory test ride done, all is once again peachy in GS land.
                        Thank you one and all for your time, suggestions and insights, the help is ALWAYS most appreciated.
                        Rod
                        Rod,
                        Yes, I now realize that you are in Canada and that will take a bit longer. The SSPB box is in LA CUSTOMS according to the status. All the rest that went out Monday have been delivered.

                        Sorry about the broad brush comment. It just comes out when I read "everything is working fine and wired just according to all recommendations". An ambiguous statement on at least two counts. There is another thread when the OP claims he read everything about charging systems on the website but he thinks he has a possibly unique and strange problem with three successive burned stators and a few blown R/R's in the process. He is now looking to use a Rick R/R??????? Really. What do you say?

                        I assume when you install the SSPB, you will get rid of that resettable fuse. If not make sure that it is a very low resistance (i.e. >50 milli-ohms). As others have mentioned, tt sounds like it is blown at the moment.
                        Jim

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                          #13
                          Nailed it!



                          Glad you got her up and running.
                          Rob
                          1983 1100ES, 98' ST1100, 02' DR-Z400E and a few other 'bits and pieces'
                          Are you on the GSR Google Earth Map yet? http://www.thegsresources.com/_forum...d.php?t=170533

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