Overall Electrical Woes

[posplayr]

Sorry If I'm irritating anyone with these questions.. I get the stator leg up to the switch and makes sense.. Thanks for explaining that.

Can you tell me please why the SPG at the battery is a bad idea? So it's better to have the wiring harness neg, a lead coming from the r/r, and then a lead coming from the battery to be the SPG instead of the battery (-)? I can't get the r/r to be the SPG unless I extended the harness (-) which I thought would be a bad thing?

You want the distance from the SPG to the R/R(-) to be as short as possible (less than 12") because that wire has all the stator currents in it(15 amps) and preferably 14 ga.

[81GS850]

OK I reread the charger health page. Guess I missed it at first read or was too tired to remember. I see why your saying it's a bad idea for the neg battery terminal to be SPG. Could I run a short wire from the r/r to a point on the frame and use the frame as a SPG? Keep in mind all of these runs are already shorter than 12". there's no way I can have a SPG at the r/r unless I extend the harness ground strap. Also if I have to remove the battery case to replace the r/r it'd be a real bear to get to it with all connections attaching to the r/r mount point.

[posplayr]

If the 14 ga wire (between the r/r- and SPG) is 12" then it doesn't matter where you put it.

I know I have posted a picture of this.

[81GS850]

Well screw this pos. I'm throwing a relay on it and to hell with the voltage drops. It's showing a half volt to the main fuse and a whole volt to the coil. I tried to do it the right way but it's just not worth the time and effort anymore. Oh. and either the r/r is out or stator. So that's nice. This wiring is so d**n s***y it's unbelievable.

[posplayr]

You are confused the r/r wiring to the battery does nothing for voltage drops to the coil. And solving a voltage drop to the coil does nothing for voltage drops for charging.

it is not the end of the world you can always walk.

[81GS850]

Yea I know the coil isn't a problem.. but there is voltage drops in the harness still for charging. R/R or Stator is bad. I've done the static tests for the stator and r/r but havn't been able to do the test while the bikes running until tonight... and the damn things not charging.

[81GS850]

Well the stator passed the static tests but when the motors running there's different ac voltages between separate legs. So I guess the stator is bad?

[tom203]

Well the stator passed the static tests but when the motors running there's different ac voltages between separate legs. So I guess the stator is bad?

So this with stator disconnected from R/R as in last section of Basscliff's testing in this link?

http://members.dslextreme.com/users/storagecliff/images/stator_check.pdf

[Steve]

How "different" are the voltages?

They won't always be EXACTLY the same, some variation is allowed.

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[posplayr]

How "different" are the voltages?

They won't always be EXACTLY the same, some variation is allowed.

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Kinda like the guys that say, I don't know what bike I have so please post pictures of your bikes so I can tell what I have.

[81GS850]

Thanks Posplayer for your kind words and wisdom. I can already tell I've ****ed you off so why do you keep responding? I posted that from my phone so sorry I didn't give full info. One of the legs was showing 2.4 when the other leg was showing 15 at idle. I don't have mufflers cause they are rotted out. I only have the exhaust pipes. So I don't think my neighbors would be pleased at me running this thing at 5000 rpm. I am getting some exhaust this week that should have been here already but the ebay seller was a lazy ass and didn't ship them out till thursday when I payed him monday. This was a $400 "deal" that's turning into a money pit. I'm trying to make sure it's mechanically sound before I decide to invest more. But truth is I'm already upside down trying to get this pos running. Thank you for the insight. Really.


Tom yes I've done that check with the cycle running and that's what I came up with at idle because again I can't rev it up to 5k cause it doesn't have exhaust. If the legs were all showing 14~15 I'd understand that variation. However one leg is showing 2.4 while the other two legs are showing ~15. That tells me one leg is not performing like the other two. I've also tried another later model r/r I had from a friend that goes to an r6 and it didn't charge after I hooked that up either. I realize I could have two bad r/r but I already have a stator not testing correctly at idle.

Steve yea I understand sorry I wasn't more clear in the first post.

[posplayr]

Thanks Posplayer for your kind words and wisdom. I can already tell I've ****ed you off so why do you keep responding? I posted that from my phone so sorry I didn't give full info.

Actually you sound like the one that is ****ed off.

And actually I'm not really keeping track of you or your posts, just making an observation to Steve.

And do you actually have to ask why I made the observation to Steve?

[81GS850]

Actually you sound like the one that is ****ed off.

And actually I'm not really keeping track of you or your posts, just making an observation to Steve.

And do you actually have to ask why I made the observation to Steve?

No. Ur equating me to a guy asking u to fix his bike over the Internet which is NOT what I'm asking. I'm reporting back my findings for input from people that know more than me. But screw it. I've read the stator papers and have done static tests on the r/r and the stator. I've checked the voltage at the r/r and it was same 12.4 as was at the battery at idle. I checked the stator and the phases aren't balanced. What else am I missing? But ur post mocking me doesn't help anyone.

[posplayr]

No. Ur equating me to a guy asking u to fix his bike over the Internet which is NOT what I'm asking. I'm reporting back my findings for input from people that know more than me. But screw it. I've read the stator papers and have done static tests on the r/r and the stator. I've checked the voltage at the r/r and it was same 12.4 as was at the battery at idle. I checked the stator and the phases aren't balanced. What else am I missing? But ur post mocking me doesn't help anyone.

Actually did not mistake you for anybody. But what I do now realize is the futile approach you seem bound to pursue.

[81GS850]

Actually did not mistake you for anybody. But what I do now realize is the futile approach you seem bound to pursue.

Ok, I'm listening but your cryptic talking is confusing. Shoot it to me straight. What do I need to do? And should I not suspect the Stator because the phases are not producing the same voltages at idle?