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    Just performed the quick chaging test and failed.... &nbsp;11.8 at idle and headlamp off... 12.4 at higher revs not climbing much higher than that Voltage wise..<br><br>I have an incandescent headlamp, led turn signals, and an incandescent tail light. Is there any relation to coil performance and a poor charging system? In other words can one see any more power in a properly charging system as opposed to one pulling of a slowly dying battery? I sprung for the dynamic coils and ignition last year, and just replaced the battery with an AGM.
    -Mark
    Boston, MA
    Suck Squeeze Bang Blow..
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    1980 GS850G with 79 carbs.....

    #2
    Before you order an R/R, verify your stator is putting out enough, too.

    Testing it is relatively quick and easy, unless you have soldered the wires from the stator to the R/R.

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    #1 son: 1986 Yamaha Venture Royale 1300 and 1982 GS650GL "Rat Bagger"
    #2 son: 1980 GS1000G
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      #3
      I did test the stator to ground and between each leg and that tested fine. I didn't test output of stator though.
      -Mark
      Boston, MA
      Suck Squeeze Bang Blow..
      sigpic
      1980 GS850G with 79 carbs.....

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        #4
        The static electrical checks that you have done will do nothing to verify the strength of the magnets and their resulting effect on the stator windings. Run the engine at 5000 RPM, check the AC voltage between all three pairs of stator leads. I think most of the manuals call for at least 75 volts, but it's more important that they are all about the same.

        .
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        mine: 2000 Honda GoldWing GL1500SE and 1980 GS850G'K' "Junior"
        hers: 1982 GS850GL - "Angel" and 1969 Suzuki T250 Scrambler
        #1 son: 1986 Yamaha Venture Royale 1300 and 1982 GS650GL "Rat Bagger"
        #2 son: 1980 GS1000G
        Family Portrait
        Siblings and Spouses
        Mom's first ride
        Want a copy of my valve adjust spreadsheet for your 2-valve per cylinder engine? Send me an e-mail request (not a PM)
        (Click on my username in the upper-left corner for e-mail info.)

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          #5
          Will do.. this should be easy as I have spade connectors on the stator. all other wiring connections on the bike are solder shrink.
          -Mark
          Boston, MA
          Suck Squeeze Bang Blow..
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          1980 GS850G with 79 carbs.....

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            #6
            Do VAC leg to ground tests at 5000 they have the highest success rate.

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              #7
              No tac so im wingin it
              -Mark
              Boston, MA
              Suck Squeeze Bang Blow..
              sigpic
              1980 GS850G with 79 carbs.....

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                #8
                Originally posted by mvalenti View Post
                No tac so im wingin it

                For the leg to ground RPM just need to be high to get a high voltage to break down teh insulation.

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                  #9
                  Originally posted by mvalenti View Post
                  No tac so im wingin it
                  Think of how the engine sounds at 70 mph. That is 5000 RPM.

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                  sigpic
                  mine: 2000 Honda GoldWing GL1500SE and 1980 GS850G'K' "Junior"
                  hers: 1982 GS850GL - "Angel" and 1969 Suzuki T250 Scrambler
                  #1 son: 1986 Yamaha Venture Royale 1300 and 1982 GS650GL "Rat Bagger"
                  #2 son: 1980 GS1000G
                  Family Portrait
                  Siblings and Spouses
                  Mom's first ride
                  Want a copy of my valve adjust spreadsheet for your 2-valve per cylinder engine? Send me an e-mail request (not a PM)
                  (Click on my username in the upper-left corner for e-mail info.)

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                    #10
                    Times like this I want the stock exhaust back....

                    Looking on ebay, seems stator range new from 48bucks to over 100... if it comes down to it what is the opinion as to make/vendor? I seem to recall discussions based on Rick, we're good....
                    Last edited by mvalenti; 05-26-2015, 11:23 AM.
                    -Mark
                    Boston, MA
                    Suck Squeeze Bang Blow..
                    sigpic
                    1980 GS850G with 79 carbs.....

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                      #11
                      Before you get into what and where to buy, verify the volts AC from each leg to leg at a "moderately high" RPM since you don't have a tach. It's not that critical that you measure the voltage at EXACTLY 5000 RPMs. Anywhere above 3500 will get you in the ball park. Just make sure you disconnect the R/R from the stator during the test. You might also want to measure the voltage from ground to each leg. Should measure close to zero.
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                      1980 GS1000GT (Daily rider with a 1983 1100G engine)
                      1998 Honda ST1100 (Daily long distance rider)
                      1982 GS850GLZ (Daily rider when the weather is crap)

                      Darn, with so many daily riders it's hard to decide which one to jump on next.;)

                      JTGS850GL aka Julius

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                        #12
                        Originally posted by JTGS850GL View Post
                        Before you get into what and where to buy, verify the volts AC from each leg to leg at a "moderately high" RPM since you don't have a tach. It's not that critical that you measure the voltage at EXACTLY 5000 RPMs. Anywhere above 3500 will get you in the ball park. Just make sure you disconnect the R/R from the stator during the test. You might also want to measure the voltage from ground to each leg. Should measure close to zero.

                        If you could only do one test, that is the one to do. Or in other words, it is the best test and does not rely on a precise RPM to give a proper answer, only a high RPM to better test the insulation breakdown.

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                          #13
                          :-[Have just resistance tested the stator....

                          1-2 .9 ohms
                          1-3 OE
                          2-3 OE

                          1 phase was 8v @ idle rising to 20v when revved
                          other phases....nothing

                          Stator is stuffed.

                          Battery is:

                          unloaded 12.3v
                          main switch on 12.07v
                          headlight on 11.7v

                          more tests to come because the Reg is brand new..... or maybe the stator fried it too...

                          Can anyone clarify how to do the ground to leg test.
                          Is this a AC volts test because thats how i got the above figures

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                            #14
                            The stator is bad no need to test it further.

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