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    Ignition switch stuck in "Lock" position

    Folks,

    I have the ignition switch to my 1978 GS1000 on the bench - I took the contact section apart for cleaning, etc.

    When I inserted the key into the actual lock, I was able to turn it to the lock position and now it is stuck. The keys are new, cut by a locksmith - they worked several months ago when the switch was in the bike.

    Any ideas?

    On a second note, why is it that I see lots of aftermarket switches available for the 79 and later models, but not the 78?

    Thanks for the help!
    Cogito ergo sum - "I think, therefore I am"
    René Descartes
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    #2
    Put it in a vice so youve got a free hand. Turn the key and wiggle it with one hand and tap on the side of the barrel with a hammer to see if the waffles are just stuck. if it comes free blow its full of carb spray and then air and repeat to flush the cylinder out. Gget the crud and rust out and then relube it.
    MY BIKES..1977 GS 750 B, 1978 GS 1000 C (X2)
    1978 GS 1000 E, 1979 GS 1000 S, 1973 Yamaha TX 750, 1977 Kawasaki KZ 650B1, 1975 Honda GL1000 Goldwing, 1983 CB 650SC Nighthawk, 1972 Honda CB 350K4, 74 Honda CB550

    NEVER SNEAK UP ON A SLEEPING DOG..NOT EVEN YOUR OWN.


    I would rather trust my bike to a "QUACK" that KNOWS how to fix it rather than a book worm that THINKS HE KNOWS how to fix it.

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      #3
      Did your lock guy cut the new key off your original or from using the actual settings from the code? if he copied your key maybe the cuts arent perfect and thats hangng up a waffle too. Get ahold of me via PM with the 3 digit code and I will send you the cut settings.
      MY BIKES..1977 GS 750 B, 1978 GS 1000 C (X2)
      1978 GS 1000 E, 1979 GS 1000 S, 1973 Yamaha TX 750, 1977 Kawasaki KZ 650B1, 1975 Honda GL1000 Goldwing, 1983 CB 650SC Nighthawk, 1972 Honda CB 350K4, 74 Honda CB550

      NEVER SNEAK UP ON A SLEEPING DOG..NOT EVEN YOUR OWN.


      I would rather trust my bike to a "QUACK" that KNOWS how to fix it rather than a book worm that THINKS HE KNOWS how to fix it.

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        #4
        Originally posted by chuck hahn View Post
        Did your lock guy cut the new key off your original or from using the actual settings from the code? if he copied your key maybe the cuts arent perfect and thats hangng up a waffle too. Get ahold of me via PM with the 3 digit code and I will send you the cut settings.
        Locksmith cut the key by the key # - my bike didn't have keys when I bought it.

        I drilled out the roll pins and now have the cylinder assembly in my hand - it is definitely stuck. I will blast it with some carb cleaner in hopes that the waffles are just stuck.
        Cogito ergo sum - "I think, therefore I am"
        René Descartes

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          #5
          To prevent having to get larger roll pins and all that next time, just take a hacksaw blade and make a 45 degree cut going up to the roll pins..making a little ditch for a small screw driver blade to get up against the pins. Now just stick the screw driver in the ditch and against the pins and pry up. The pins will slide out enough to be grabbed with pliers.
          MY BIKES..1977 GS 750 B, 1978 GS 1000 C (X2)
          1978 GS 1000 E, 1979 GS 1000 S, 1973 Yamaha TX 750, 1977 Kawasaki KZ 650B1, 1975 Honda GL1000 Goldwing, 1983 CB 650SC Nighthawk, 1972 Honda CB 350K4, 74 Honda CB550

          NEVER SNEAK UP ON A SLEEPING DOG..NOT EVEN YOUR OWN.


          I would rather trust my bike to a "QUACK" that KNOWS how to fix it rather than a book worm that THINKS HE KNOWS how to fix it.

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            #6
            Reassemble the lock and reuse the same pins.
            MY BIKES..1977 GS 750 B, 1978 GS 1000 C (X2)
            1978 GS 1000 E, 1979 GS 1000 S, 1973 Yamaha TX 750, 1977 Kawasaki KZ 650B1, 1975 Honda GL1000 Goldwing, 1983 CB 650SC Nighthawk, 1972 Honda CB 350K4, 74 Honda CB550

            NEVER SNEAK UP ON A SLEEPING DOG..NOT EVEN YOUR OWN.


            I would rather trust my bike to a "QUACK" that KNOWS how to fix it rather than a book worm that THINKS HE KNOWS how to fix it.

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              #7
              While the cylinder is out, take a flat tip and see if the bar lock will work before reinstalling the cylinder.
              MY BIKES..1977 GS 750 B, 1978 GS 1000 C (X2)
              1978 GS 1000 E, 1979 GS 1000 S, 1973 Yamaha TX 750, 1977 Kawasaki KZ 650B1, 1975 Honda GL1000 Goldwing, 1983 CB 650SC Nighthawk, 1972 Honda CB 350K4, 74 Honda CB550

              NEVER SNEAK UP ON A SLEEPING DOG..NOT EVEN YOUR OWN.


              I would rather trust my bike to a "QUACK" that KNOWS how to fix it rather than a book worm that THINKS HE KNOWS how to fix it.

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                #8
                Chuck,

                Cylinder isn't moving for love or money - I'm afraid I may be looking for a new aftermarket switch. Do you know any sources for one that fits a 1978 GS1000?
                Cogito ergo sum - "I think, therefore I am"
                René Descartes

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                  #9
                  Ive got afew around. I will see what I have that has a working key. I will have to run across town to get my banana boxes off the shelf and go hunting. I will post back this afternoon. In the interum, see if David ( KIWI CANNUCK) can be got ahold of. Hes the resident locksmith and may have some advice on what you can do to maybe get your going again.
                  MY BIKES..1977 GS 750 B, 1978 GS 1000 C (X2)
                  1978 GS 1000 E, 1979 GS 1000 S, 1973 Yamaha TX 750, 1977 Kawasaki KZ 650B1, 1975 Honda GL1000 Goldwing, 1983 CB 650SC Nighthawk, 1972 Honda CB 350K4, 74 Honda CB550

                  NEVER SNEAK UP ON A SLEEPING DOG..NOT EVEN YOUR OWN.


                  I would rather trust my bike to a "QUACK" that KNOWS how to fix it rather than a book worm that THINKS HE KNOWS how to fix it.

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                    #10
                    There is a link detailing disassembly of an ignition lock and how to refile the wafers.

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                      #11
                      Originally posted by chuck hahn View Post
                      Ive got afew around. I will see what I have that has a working key. I will have to run across town to get my banana boxes off the shelf and go hunting. I will post back this afternoon. In the interum, see if David ( KIWI CANNUCK) can be got ahold of. Hes the resident locksmith and may have some advice on what you can do to maybe get your going again.
                      I'm in the middle of a restoration so it's not like my bike is stuck in the middle of nowhere unable to run - I'll wait to hear back from you.
                      Cogito ergo sum - "I think, therefore I am"
                      René Descartes

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                        #12
                        Originally posted by posplayr View Post
                        There is a link detailing disassembly of an ignition lock and how to refile the wafers.
                        Unfortunately, the cylinder won't turn and thus I can't remove it from the lock assembly to access the wafers.
                        Cogito ergo sum - "I think, therefore I am"
                        René Descartes

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                          #13
                          No biggy..I gotta run over there anyway today to fetch my riding gloves and some other junk so I am not being inconveinenced by any means.
                          MY BIKES..1977 GS 750 B, 1978 GS 1000 C (X2)
                          1978 GS 1000 E, 1979 GS 1000 S, 1973 Yamaha TX 750, 1977 Kawasaki KZ 650B1, 1975 Honda GL1000 Goldwing, 1983 CB 650SC Nighthawk, 1972 Honda CB 350K4, 74 Honda CB550

                          NEVER SNEAK UP ON A SLEEPING DOG..NOT EVEN YOUR OWN.


                          I would rather trust my bike to a "QUACK" that KNOWS how to fix it rather than a book worm that THINKS HE KNOWS how to fix it.

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                            #14
                            Originally posted by philosopheriam View Post
                            Unfortunately, the cylinder won't turn and thus I can't remove it from the lock assembly to access the wafers.
                            I'm pretty sure you can get the tumbler removed with the key inserted.

                            But of course the details are in the link I mentioned.

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                              #15
                              Originally posted by posplayr View Post
                              I'm pretty sure you can get the tumbler removed with the key inserted.

                              But of course the details are in the link I mentioned.
                              Found the link - http://www.thegsresources.com/_forum...+wafers+refile

                              Cogito ergo sum - "I think, therefore I am"
                              René Descartes

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