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    #16
    Originally posted by Nessism View Post
    Did you verify the R/R ground is going to a good frame point or the battery post?
    Yes, I ran it to the negative battery post a few weeks ago.

    Originally posted by posplayr View Post
    Using an ohm meter is about the worst thing you can do. That is detailed in the Revised Phase B tests description. Repeating myself, Leg to Ground at 5K RPM is the best test but you should also do leg to leg at 5K as well.
    D'oh! Okay, I guess I didn't see the revised Phase B test.
    https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4442/...678005be58.jpg

    1982 GS1100 G converted by Motorcyclist magazine in 1986 to be a tribute to the Wes Cooley replica. 1982 Honda 900F. 1997 Yamaha VMax.
    Also owned: 1973 Kawasaki Z1 900, 1972 Honda 750 K, 1976 Yamaha XS 650, 1980 Kawasaki KZ 1000 MKII, 1978 Kawasaki SR 650. Current cage is a 2001 Mustang Bullitt in Dark Highland Green. Bought new in Sept. 2001.

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      #17
      What are your opinions on this stator. This was on the bike when I got it. Notice stripped screw head? I'm assuming it had been off the bike at some point.

      https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4442/...678005be58.jpg

      1982 GS1100 G converted by Motorcyclist magazine in 1986 to be a tribute to the Wes Cooley replica. 1982 Honda 900F. 1997 Yamaha VMax.
      Also owned: 1973 Kawasaki Z1 900, 1972 Honda 750 K, 1976 Yamaha XS 650, 1980 Kawasaki KZ 1000 MKII, 1978 Kawasaki SR 650. Current cage is a 2001 Mustang Bullitt in Dark Highland Green. Bought new in Sept. 2001.

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        #18
        It's cajun bbq style- might produce a bit for a while ,but get a new one.
        1981 gs650L

        "We are all born ignorant, but you have to work hard to stay stupid" Ben Franklin

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          #19
          That thing looks pretty toasty.
          https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B9zH8w8Civs8ejBJWjdvYi1LNTg&resourcekey=0-hlJp0Yc4K_VN9g7Jyy4KQg&authuser=fussbucket_1%40msn.com&usp=drive_fs
          1983 GS750ED-Horsetraded for the Ironhead
          1981 HD XLH

          Drew's 850 L Restoration

          Drew's 83 750E Project

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            #20
            Originally posted by Deuce View Post
            What are your opinions on this stator.
            Direct evidence that a ohm meter is worthless for diagnosing a stator.

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              #21
              Originally posted by posplayr View Post
              Direct evidence that a ohm meter is worthless for diagnosing a stator.
              This was stator in bike when I bought it. I switched it out to a Caltric a few months ago. I rewired the stator to the R/R, now with simple battery tests, I'm getting wild fluctuations in the voltage reads (engine running). Tried 2 different meters, same thing. I wish this was indicative of a bad stator. I'd quit farting with it till I order a new one.

              Oh, and I can't do any AC tests as my meter only goes as low as 200 volts.

              Let me clarify my wiring of stator to rectifier. I have the shunt type r/r so I connected the stator wires directly to the r/r wires, then into connector. I'm thinking this is wrong and the statements that tell me to do that are for the series? type regulator.
              Last edited by Deuce; 02-27-2016, 08:06 PM.
              https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4442/...678005be58.jpg

              1982 GS1100 G converted by Motorcyclist magazine in 1986 to be a tribute to the Wes Cooley replica. 1982 Honda 900F. 1997 Yamaha VMax.
              Also owned: 1973 Kawasaki Z1 900, 1972 Honda 750 K, 1976 Yamaha XS 650, 1980 Kawasaki KZ 1000 MKII, 1978 Kawasaki SR 650. Current cage is a 2001 Mustang Bullitt in Dark Highland Green. Bought new in Sept. 2001.

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                #22
                Your meter only has to go to 70 VAC or so IIRC

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                  #23
                  Originally posted by gearhead13 View Post
                  Your meter only has to go to 70 VAC or so IIRC
                  I'm assuming since the meter says 200 and 500, it will not register anything below those settings. Am i wrong?
                  https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4442/...678005be58.jpg

                  1982 GS1100 G converted by Motorcyclist magazine in 1986 to be a tribute to the Wes Cooley replica. 1982 Honda 900F. 1997 Yamaha VMax.
                  Also owned: 1973 Kawasaki Z1 900, 1972 Honda 750 K, 1976 Yamaha XS 650, 1980 Kawasaki KZ 1000 MKII, 1978 Kawasaki SR 650. Current cage is a 2001 Mustang Bullitt in Dark Highland Green. Bought new in Sept. 2001.

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                    #24
                    yes, you are wrong. those are the max voltages.
                    1983 GS 1100 ESD :D

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                      #25
                      If I have a 400 hp engine, can I only run it flat out with 400+ hp getting delivered?

                      Same with a 200V meter range; can I only measure things above 200 V?

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                        #26
                        The more I work on the bike, the more I see that it's not that complicated. I just ordered a new Ricks stator and regulator, so I'll just start over. It's not draining the battery when sitting, only at high rpm's so it's not a short, and the only things that seem to be connected to charging are the battery, which I determined is good, the stator, or the R/R. I'm sure there are other switches, relays, and grounds in the system I can look at once I get these two other items changed. Mostly what I've read on this site regarding charging issues are those 3 main parts. I think I have been over-analyzing things.

                        I repair copiers for a living and essentially, when there's a problem, I get the code, look it up in my Edocs, follow instructions and change a part. Very little to no time is spent using meters. It's worked pretty good for me so far.
                        https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4442/...678005be58.jpg

                        1982 GS1100 G converted by Motorcyclist magazine in 1986 to be a tribute to the Wes Cooley replica. 1982 Honda 900F. 1997 Yamaha VMax.
                        Also owned: 1973 Kawasaki Z1 900, 1972 Honda 750 K, 1976 Yamaha XS 650, 1980 Kawasaki KZ 1000 MKII, 1978 Kawasaki SR 650. Current cage is a 2001 Mustang Bullitt in Dark Highland Green. Bought new in Sept. 2001.

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                          #27
                          Originally posted by deuce View Post
                          the more i work on the bike, the more i see that it's not that complicated. I just ordered a new ricks stator and regulator, so i'll just start over. It's not draining the battery when sitting, only at high rpm's so it's not a short, and the only things that seem to be connected to charging are the battery, which i determined is good, the stator, or the r/r. I'm sure there are other switches, relays, and grounds in the system i can look at once i get these two other items changed. Mostly what i've read on this site regarding charging issues are those 3 main parts. I think i have been over-analyzing things.

                          I repair copiers for a living and essentially, when there's a problem, i get the code, look it up in my edocs, follow instructions and change a part. Very little to no time is spent using meters. It's worked pretty good for me so far.
                          mistake...................

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                            #28
                            Get a SH775 R/R and a jumper harness from Triumph. There are about 100 different threads about the best R/R for these old bikes and a Ricks ain't it.
                            Ed

                            To measure is to know.

                            Mikuni O-ring Kits For Sale...https://www.thegsresources.com/_foru...ts#post1703182

                            Top Newbie Mistakes thread...http://www.thegsresources.com/_forum...d.php?t=171846

                            Carb rebuild tutorial...https://gsarchive.bwringer.com/mtsac...d_Tutorial.pdf

                            KZ750E Rebuild Thread...http://www.thegsresources.com/_forum...0-Resurrection

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                              #29
                              Kept the stator from Rick's but cancelled the R/R and ordered this kit. Yeah, I know, the connectors and such are pretty inexpensive, but I want to ride, not hunt down any more parts.

                              https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4442/...678005be58.jpg

                              1982 GS1100 G converted by Motorcyclist magazine in 1986 to be a tribute to the Wes Cooley replica. 1982 Honda 900F. 1997 Yamaha VMax.
                              Also owned: 1973 Kawasaki Z1 900, 1972 Honda 750 K, 1976 Yamaha XS 650, 1980 Kawasaki KZ 1000 MKII, 1978 Kawasaki SR 650. Current cage is a 2001 Mustang Bullitt in Dark Highland Green. Bought new in Sept. 2001.

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                                #30
                                That will do it. Kind of expensive is all.

                                When I recently need an R/R I bought a Rick's. I'm not positive they are better per say, but they have a solid reputation and I'm happy with the purchase.
                                Ed

                                To measure is to know.

                                Mikuni O-ring Kits For Sale...https://www.thegsresources.com/_foru...ts#post1703182

                                Top Newbie Mistakes thread...http://www.thegsresources.com/_forum...d.php?t=171846

                                Carb rebuild tutorial...https://gsarchive.bwringer.com/mtsac...d_Tutorial.pdf

                                KZ750E Rebuild Thread...http://www.thegsresources.com/_forum...0-Resurrection

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