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    Ignition Coil Windings Resistance 1978 GS750

    Hello.

    I think there's been lots written about setting ignition timing and measuring ignition coil resistance. But here's my 2 cent contribution.

    I set the points up statically (0.018 inch gaps) so that the timing marks lined up to within the width of the F line. So this seems accurate to about 1 deg of advance.

    Kicked her over with the plugs out laying on the head, and all cylinders sparked.

    But wanted to check the coils for primary and HT resistance. The coil for cyls 1 and 4 was 4.1 ohms primary and 22.5 kohms secondary. For clys 2 and 3 the coil's numbers were 4.1 ohms and 22.3 kohms.

    I can't find a spec in the factory service manual, but these numbers seem about correct from what I've found in this forum.
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    Coils that measure 4.1 Ohms primary resistance are typically called 3 Ohm coils for some reason. The primary and secondary resistance you are measuring seems right.

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      #3
      Originally posted by geol View Post
      Coils that measure 4.1 Ohms primary resistance are typically called 3 Ohm coils for some reason. The primary and secondary resistance you are measuring seems right.
      Thanks geol. I forgot to mention that the two spark plug caps were included in my HT resistance measurements. I don't know if these are resistor caps, and if so, their resistance values.

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        #4
        Originally posted by geol View Post
        Coils that measure 4.1 Ohms primary resistance are typically called 3 Ohm coils for some reason. The primary and secondary resistance you are measuring seems right.
        I've measured six sets of early 1980 ish suzuki coils- all measured about 4 ohms primary and 12000 ohm secondary (wire to wire plug caps removed). I call these 4 ohm coils. Dyna and others make 3 ohm coils for their different ignition system.
        1981 gs650L

        "We are all born ignorant, but you have to work hard to stay stupid" Ben Franklin

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          #5
          I found distinct differences on the ones I encountered.
          OEM points coils - 4 ohms or thereabouts - not critical, as it's quite stone-age tech.
          OEM electronic ign coils - 3 ohms as an absolute minimum iirc.
          There's a tolerance of +/- 15% on all of those, anyway.


          Don't know where the errors arose - it's as clear as day.

          As long as you keep in mind the differences, you can swap them around - for example, I have CBR1000 coils (3ohm) on mine, running perfectly well. There's also a couple of sets of OEM 4ohm coils that work fine with the aftermarket ignitions systems I have - but those systems will tolerate the 3ohm coils too.
          Last edited by Grimly; 03-10-2016, 09:41 AM.
          ---- Dave

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            #6
            Does everyone "zero" their ohmmeters first? I can never tell.... as in touch leads together, note value displayed, and subtract from reading. My shop beater meter usually zeroes at 2.8 so if I was testing resistance on something that " read " at say 10 ohms, I'd say it was really 7.2 ohms.

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              Originally posted by Gorminrider View Post
              Does everyone "zero" their ohmmeters first? I can never tell.... as in touch leads together, note value displayed, and subtract from reading. My shop beater meter usually zeroes at 2.8 so if I was testing resistance on something that " read " at say 10 ohms, I'd say it was really 7.2 ohms.
              Whenever I use an analogue meter I have the automatic zero-ing habit ingrained from years ago. I only sometimes remember to do it with the DVMs, but only one of them is a drifter as the battery gets lower anyway and that one isn't used for anything important.
              ---- Dave

              Only a dog knows why a motorcyclist sticks his head out of a car window

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                #8
                Originally posted by tom203 View Post
                I've measured six sets of early 1980 ish suzuki coils- all measured about 4 ohms primary and 12000 ohm secondary (wire to wire plug caps removed). I call these 4 ohm coils. Dyna and others make 3 ohm coils for their different ignition system.
                Thanks tom302.

                That's reassuring that the primaries were all near 4 ohms on all your samples.

                Rightly or wrongly, I have in mind that a resistor cap is about 5 kohms, so two caps in series adds 10 kohm. Add the cap's 10 kohm to you 12 kohm and you get 22 kohm, which is what I got cap to cap.

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                  Originally posted by Gorminrider View Post
                  Does everyone "zero" their ohmmeters first? I can never tell.... as in touch leads together, note value displayed, and subtract from reading. My shop beater meter usually zeroes at 2.8 so if I was testing resistance on something that " read " at say 10 ohms, I'd say it was really 7.2 ohms.
                  Thanks Gorminirider.

                  If you meter's internal's are OK, then you've got 2.8 ohms in the leads, which is way too much. My leads have leas than 0.1 ohm.

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                    #10
                    indeed! and they vary when I wiggle them! ... I just wanted to make the point. It makes such a huge difference in low resistance circuits.

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