Main electrical help wanted

[alke46]

Any further update?

No, haven't gotten back to it yet. Testing begins tonight with a little luck.

[Redman]

That key position wioth key turned all the way and handlebars locked is called the "park" position, and yes it turns on the tail light and tail light only... and it uses the main power (not fuse that typically powers the tail light).... so that is a clue.... a little bit of a clue, it tells you your main power to the ignition switch is okay. So knowing thast is okay, then must be that what you are loosing is the power back (orange wire) to the fuse block for the head & signal & ignition fuse.


When you talked about turning handle bars: did you mean you loose power when turn handle bars?
Or did yolu just mean if turn all the way and go to the park position then you have everything out but tail light on? (which is what should happen then).

I would also say that you need a volt meter (or test lamp probe) to troubleshoot this. See if you are getting power back on that orange wire or not. If not, then are loosing it somewhere from the ignoition swtich. If do have power on orange wire then are loosing it inside the fuse block (Yes, that can happen).,

If you dont have a volt meter (or test lamp probe) then try wiggling the connector on bottom of the ignition swtich.

Dave

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[alke46]

Clarification...
Does anything light up/work when the key is in the on position?

Does the bike crank? If it doesn't, have you tried jumping across the starter solenoid with a screwdriver to see if it will crank?

Bike does not crank. I just tried jumping across the solenoid and it does crank that way.

[alke46]

That key position wioth key turned all the way and handlebars locked is called the "park" position, and yes it turns on the tail light and tail light only... and it uses the main power (not fuse that typically powers the tail light).... so that is a clue.... a little bit of a clue, it tells you your main power to the ignition switch is okay. So knowing thast is okay, then must be that what you are loosing is the power back (orange wire) to the fuse block for the head & signal & ignition fuse.

Thanks, I'll check that orange wire next.

When you talked about turning handle bars: did you mean you loose power when turn handle bars? No.
Or did yolu just mean if turn all the way and go to the park position then you have everything out but tail light on? (which is what should happen then). Correct.



I would also say that you need a volt meter (or test lamp probe) to troubleshoot this. See if you are getting power back on that orange wire or not. If not, then are loosing it somewhere from the ignoition swtich. If do have power on orange wire then are loosing it inside the fuse block (Yes, that can happen).,

If you dont have a volt meter (or test lamp probe) then try wiggling the connector on bottom of the ignition swtich.

Dave

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Thanks, will check this after breakfast.

[alke46]

I just now removed the fuse block and on the back side with the key switched to the on position, I got no reading from the orange wire at all.

I will now have to check the switch again.

[Apocalypse]

check the wires.

I would look at the wires going to the ignition switch they move a lot and they can get breaks in them because of that. On my EX500 i had a broken wire that was in the middle of the sub loom where it connected to the main loom all i had to do to find it was disconnect the ignition from the loom and carefully cut off the plastic wrap and i felt along each wire till i felt a part that wasnt as stiff as it should have been i cut open that wire cleaned off some of the sheathing around the break and then soldered the wire together and re-wrapped the sub loom. I havent had a problem since and my symptoms are pretty similar to what you have.

[alke46]

I would look at the wires going to the ignition switch they move a lot and they can get breaks in them because of that. On my EX500 i had a broken wire that was in the middle of the sub loom where it connected to the main loom all i had to do to find it was disconnect the ignition from the loom and carefully cut off the plastic wrap and i felt along each wire till i felt a part that wasnt as stiff as it should have been i cut open that wire cleaned off some of the sheathing around the break and then soldered the wire together and re-wrapped the sub loom. I havent had a problem since and my symptoms are pretty similar to what you have.

Thanks, much appreciated. My next step is to remove the ignition switch and get real familiar with it.

[2BRacing]

Thanks, much appreciated. My next step is to remove the ignition switch and get real familiar with it.

Don't let the smoke out!

Hope you find the problem, good luck.

[alke46]

Found it !!!!!!!

Thanks a million for all of the input from those responding to my issue. And a huge "thank you" goes out to Dave (Redman). He is the one who directed me to the orange wire coming back to the fuse block. At the 4 pin connector from the main harness and the fuse block harness, I had current until it tried to go through the connector. No current from the connector side to the fuse block. The orange wire had burned and the connector was melted to the point it could not be pulled apart.

So happy to have found this bugger, now to just make the repairs and start riding it again.

Thanks again everyone.

[Kiwi Canuck]

Good news.

[Redman]

Found it !!!!!!!........

Good that you found it Larry.

I am glad to have helped.

Meantime; Brian bwringer from Indianapolis diagnosed a mechanical problem for me, and Marc Kochik from Quebec had spare replacement parts.
Such a great thing, eh.

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[alke46]

Good that you found it Larry.

I am glad to have helped.

Meantime; Brian bwringer from Indianapolis diagnosed a mechanical problem for me, and Marc Kochik from Quebec had spare replacement parts.
Such a great thing, eh.

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Yeah, that's what makes this such a good group of guys and gals to be associated with. GSR rocks.

[storm 64]

And I was sure it was a loose connection between the seat and handel bars! Good ol' uncle Lar don't have his wires crossed after all... ☺