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    The latest in LED head lights

    The LED head light tech seems to be evolving monthly. I'm looking to upgrade my bikes and would like some tech talk and feed back from people who have been using LED head lights. Not interested in tail lights or turn signals

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    The Cyclops is spendy, but is 2 X the lumens and is fan cooled
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    #2
    Note that fan cooling sounds like a nice feature, but look at how much air is available inside the headlight bucket for cooling.

    I have a very limited experience with LED inserts for headlights, and it was dismal, at best. Others have reported modest success, and I purchased the ADV Monster insert based on that. Yes, there was a lot of light, but it was unfocused, much like having a VERY bright candle out there. Very impressive, until you actually hit the road, as there was NOTHING projected down the road. I hear there have been improvements, but I have not seen them for myself.

    The way I see it, the source of light on the LED and HID inserts is not quite in the same place as the filament on the incandescent inserts, so the light projected will not have the same pattern. Sometimes it's not too bad, other times it's totally unacceptable. I prefer to replace the entire bulb/reflector/lens assembly, to have something that was designed together to put a proper pattern on the road. Yes, it's even MORE money, but it's one of those things that makes you ask "why did I wait so long to do this?"

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      #3
      I have been turned off by many reports about such things. Have you looked into Narva bulbs?
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          #5
          Get a DOT approved light.

          otherwise, Per Led headlamps, I'm Waiting until the dust settles...but I am thinking Steve's comment is very pertinent-We MAY need new reflectors to suit these. ( I tried an ebay cheapo for fun and indeed, it's a mess. I also wouldn't have a fan ...but heatsink-sure. Lots of air around a moving motorcycle)

          anyways, No headlight sees around corners (though some cars have them swivel nowadays!) so brighter is not always better. and the "brighter" trend can be useless where everyone is dazzled by each others' oncoming super-novas.... but maybe you live alone on the prairie where you can dazzle a deer further down the road.
          Last edited by Gorminrider; 11-10-2017, 12:33 PM.

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            #6
            Originally posted by Gorminrider View Post
            I also wouldn't have a fan ...but heatsink-sure. Lots of air around a moving motorcycle)
            Sure, there is a lot of air around a moving motorcycle, but the heat sink is going to be in a very small, confined area inside the headlight bucket.
            But I would still take a heat sink with no moving parts over a fan that might fail.


            Originally posted by Gorminrider View Post
            No headlight sees around corners (though some cars have them swivel nowadays!) so brighter is not always better.
            To make it even WORSE, when a bike turns, it leans. That means that, instead of the curve going to the side of the bike, there is now an "upward" vector, relative to the bike, as well. Even switching to high beams in a turn will not raise the beam enough to see through the turn.


            Originally posted by Gorminrider View Post
            ... and the "brighter" trend can be useless where everyone is dazzled by each others' oncoming super-novas....
            The Cyclops bulb claims 7000 Lumens? If they are not focused on the road, they are useless, and I certainly don't want THAT coming towards me.

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              #7
              Originally posted by Steve View Post



              The Cyclops bulb claims 7000 Lumens? If they are not focused on the road, they are useless, and I certainly don't want THAT coming towards me.

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              I did a comparative analysis in the link provided.


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                #8
                J.W. Speaker has a mucho grande expensive cornering headlight.
                Looking for the Adaptiv Series? J.W. Speaker has made improvements to our original Adaptive series making this series no longer available.

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                  #9
                  Originally posted by jabcb View Post
                  J.W. Speaker has a mucho grande expensive cornering headlight.
                  http://www.jwspeaker.com/products/ad...8790-adaptive/
                  And I thought my Truck-Lite light was expensive.

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                  mine: 2000 Honda GoldWing GL1500SE and 1980 GS850G'K' "Junior"
                  hers: 1982 GS850GL - "Angel" and 1969 Suzuki T250 Scrambler
                  #1 son: 1986 Yamaha Venture Royale 1300 and 1982 GS650GL "Rat Bagger"
                  #2 son: 1980 GS1000G
                  Family Portrait
                  Siblings and Spouses
                  Mom's first ride
                  Want a copy of my valve adjust spreadsheet for your 2-valve per cylinder engine? Send me an e-mail request (not a PM)
                  (Click on my username in the upper-left corner for e-mail info.)

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                    #10
                    I don't like the looks of them LED headlights. It takes away the classic look of vintage motorcycle. Plus I'm not sure of the reliability of the light. For now I'll stick with the PIAA H4 Super Plasma Bulb. 3800/5000 Kelvin! 👍

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                      #11
                      Originally posted by storm 64 View Post
                      I don't like the looks of them LED headlights. It takes away the classic look of vintage motorcycle. Plus I'm not sure of the reliability of the light. For now I'll stick with the PIAA H4 Super Plasma Bulb. 3800/5000 Kelvin! 

                      (I know this cause I'm reading the box) ☺
                      +1 on H4 bulbs.
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                        #12
                        The LED daytime running lights on new cars really stand out. That kind of daytime visibility would really help on bikes given how lots of cagers drive.
                        That’s something to think about when picking your bike headlight.


                        Projector LED headlights don’t look as “vintage” as reflector headlights. But they may be a lot better as daytime running lights.

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                          #13
                          Originally posted by Steve View Post
                          And I thought my Truck-Lite light was expensive.

                          J.W. Speaker 7″ LED Black Adaptive Headlight

                          Manufacturer Part Number 0552341


                          This product fits a variety of motorcycles. Please select yours so we can find the right part and guarantee fitment. Select A Motorcycle






                          Product may vary from photo(s).




                          $854.99

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                          Uses the same tech as the KTM https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p8qolUQT7S4

                          Basically turning on a line of LEDS to light the way as it leans

                          Bit cheaper here http://www.ebay.com/itm/like/232355045430
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                            #14
                            Originally posted by jabcb View Post
                            The LED daytime running lights on new cars really stand out. That kind of daytime visibility would really help on bikes given how lots of cagers drive.
                            That’s something to think about when picking your bike headlight.


                            Projector LED headlights don’t look as “vintage” as reflector headlights. But they may be a lot better as daytime running lights.
                            I'm guessing most folks buy headlights for night riding vision rather than daytime visibility, however.
                            "Thought he, it is a wicked world in all meridians; I'll die a pagan."
                            ~Herman Melville

                            2016 1200 Superlow
                            1982 CB900f

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                              #15
                              Originally posted by storm 64 View Post
                              I don't like the looks of them LED headlights. It takes away the classic look of vintage motorcycle.
                              Yes, I have noticed that many members here are after a particular "look". Some of those looks might be a bit questionable to the purists, others are going for the purist look. For an example, I questioned your move to spoked wheels, instead of cast. Yeah, it has a certain "look", but it also involves more maintenance. I understand the spoked wheels are a bit lighter, which would help a lot for racing, but I am not sure they offer that much of an advantage on the street. Not criticizing your bike, though. I do like the way it looks, it's just something that I would not do to my bike.

                              I will agree that many of the lights are getting rather "glitzy", like the Daymaker and the one I showed a few posts earlier, but the TruckLite is rather simple and clean-looking. On my bike, with a black fairing, the fact that the light has a black-out look just makes it blend in that much more. On a bike without a fairing, it does look a bit "different" with its black appearance. For me, my bike is enough of a mixture, it's hard to say that the light looks out of place. And, while it doesn't look that out of place, I can see a LOT better, so it stays.


                              Originally posted by storm 64 View Post
                              Plus I'm not sure of the reliability of the light.
                              I don't know about any of the other brands, but the TruckLite was originally designed for use in the military HumVees.
                              While ultimate lifetime might be up in the air, there is no question that they can withstand some pretty rough abuse in the process.
                              And, ... I can't tell you how many H4 bulbs I have had fail over the years. Yeah, they are good, usually predictable quality, but I ALWAYS carried a spare.





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                              mine: 2000 Honda GoldWing GL1500SE and 1980 GS850G'K' "Junior"
                              hers: 1982 GS850GL - "Angel" and 1969 Suzuki T250 Scrambler
                              #1 son: 1986 Yamaha Venture Royale 1300 and 1982 GS650GL "Rat Bagger"
                              #2 son: 1980 GS1000G
                              Family Portrait
                              Siblings and Spouses
                              Mom's first ride
                              Want a copy of my valve adjust spreadsheet for your 2-valve per cylinder engine? Send me an e-mail request (not a PM)
                              (Click on my username in the upper-left corner for e-mail info.)

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