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    no spark unless power coil from battery direct.

    I am taking a liberty but if anyone who is electrical
    Could look at this thread in other bikes .....
    On paper I thought it was the cdi box but
    With my pitiful electric analysis I am
    Finding otherwise.

    (Other bikes thread - no-spark-gpz600r-1985


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    No spark and solenoid bust.
    (the solenoid I bridge to turn over, another coming)

    There seems to be an intermittent fault of
    Voltage getting to coils.
    If I bridge from battery to coil then turn over
    By bridging solenoid it sparks.

    So why and how do I find why it only works
    With direct voltage to coil from battery ?

    I put this on here as has interest to us gs
    Owners. I am hooeless at electircs have bad colour vision
    But have got to this stage ....
    UKJULES
    ---------------------------------
    Owner of following bikes:
    1980 Suzuki GS550ET
    1977 Yamaha RD 250D
    1982 Kawasaki GPZ 750 R1
    1980 Suzuki GSX 250E

    #2
    Look at your kill switch, the power is routed through there to the coils.
    http://www.thegsresources.com/_forum...ine=1440711157'78 GS1000E, Dyna-S ignition, Dyna Green Coils, K&N pods, Delkevic SS 4-1 exhaust, Dynojet Stage 3 jet kit, Russell SS Brake Lines, Progressive suspension, Compu-Fire series Regulator 55402 and Advmonster cree LED headlight conversion.

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      #3
      Originally posted by OldVet66 View Post
      Look at your kill switch, the power is routed through there to the coils.
      Yep; that is about it.

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        #4
        Many thanks for information I'll divert to the other thread in other bikes to report analysis.

        I do have a electrics diagram but it is very hard for me to read it.

        Thanks what information and I'll post results tomorrow
        UKJULES
        ---------------------------------
        Owner of following bikes:
        1980 Suzuki GS550ET
        1977 Yamaha RD 250D
        1982 Kawasaki GPZ 750 R1
        1980 Suzuki GSX 250E

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          #5
          Kill switches on these GSs are weak. I never use them. Shut off with the key and leave the switch alone is my policy.
          MY BIKES..1977 GS 750 B, 1978 GS 1000 C (X2)
          1978 GS 1000 E, 1979 GS 1000 S, 1973 Yamaha TX 750, 1977 Kawasaki KZ 650B1, 1975 Honda GL1000 Goldwing, 1983 CB 650SC Nighthawk, 1972 Honda CB 350K4, 74 Honda CB550

          NEVER SNEAK UP ON A SLEEPING DOG..NOT EVEN YOUR OWN.


          I would rather trust my bike to a "QUACK" that KNOWS how to fix it rather than a book worm that THINKS HE KNOWS how to fix it.

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            #6
            Thanks this thread is slightly involved as it involves another
            make of bike but I agree I don't usually ever use the kill switch.

            Tomorrow I will get to work on the bike and provide more analysis
            UKJULES
            ---------------------------------
            Owner of following bikes:
            1980 Suzuki GS550ET
            1977 Yamaha RD 250D
            1982 Kawasaki GPZ 750 R1
            1980 Suzuki GSX 250E

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              #7
              Just to update this thread the issue is now solved and I have updated the thread
              in the "others" section.

              The no spark issue was caused by mainly a
              faulty on / off button. Dismantling the switch and cleaning the contacts with a
              dremel worked instantly.
              I can also add making new HT leads and cleaning the pickup
              connector box were at issue.
              UKJULES
              ---------------------------------
              Owner of following bikes:
              1980 Suzuki GS550ET
              1977 Yamaha RD 250D
              1982 Kawasaki GPZ 750 R1
              1980 Suzuki GSX 250E

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                #8
                You may also consider making "coil relay mod" awhile working on the problem.
                The mod added noticeable increase in voltage going into the coils.
                It is relatively cheap and easy mod.

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                  #9
                  No problem anymore as fixed but I wouldn't mind reading
                  What this mod entails ?
                  I reality I have never had an issue with coils or
                  performance of them.

                  What does this mod entail ?
                  UKJULES
                  ---------------------------------
                  Owner of following bikes:
                  1980 Suzuki GS550ET
                  1977 Yamaha RD 250D
                  1982 Kawasaki GPZ 750 R1
                  1980 Suzuki GSX 250E

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                    #10
                    See the link below on bikecliff's "coil relay mod", and do search for more info.
                    On unmodified bike, the power(+12V battery) going to the coils go through ignition switch and kill switch (in series).
                    Over time, those switches develop wear and additional resistance.
                    The cleaning the switch contacts will help restoring functionality.
                    The "coil relay mod" will bypass existing ignition switch and kill switch path (from battery to coil) with a relay.
                    On my bike, the voltage increase going into the coils was around 0.8V, and resulting in noticeable increase in brightness of the spark.

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