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I agree with you Wymple. A useless item thats just another potential point of failureMY BIKES..1977 GS 750 B, 1978 GS 1000 C (X2)
1978 GS 1000 E, 1979 GS 1000 S, 1973 Yamaha TX 750, 1977 Kawasaki KZ 650B1, 1975 Honda GL1000 Goldwing, 1983 CB 650SC Nighthawk, 1972 Honda CB 350K4, 74 Honda CB550
NEVER SNEAK UP ON A SLEEPING DOG..NOT EVEN YOUR OWN.
I would rather trust my bike to a "QUACK" that KNOWS how to fix it rather than a book worm that THINKS HE KNOWS how to fix it.
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Originally posted by chuck hahn View PostKill switches weren't originally intended to shut off the engine with everyday use. How that ever got started is beyond me. The KEY is the intended way to shut off a bike. The kill switch is for emergency or other use that isn't "normal" to make the engine shut off.
If you are using the key to save wear and tear, all you are doing is pitting the contacts there, rather than the kill switch, which is less likely to do that, due to lower current.
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No..I use the key because too many kills have failed on me...and not just on GSs either. Bunch off bullchisel when your bikes dead and its not I your driveway...BAN KILL SWITCH USE !!!!!!MY BIKES..1977 GS 750 B, 1978 GS 1000 C (X2)
1978 GS 1000 E, 1979 GS 1000 S, 1973 Yamaha TX 750, 1977 Kawasaki KZ 650B1, 1975 Honda GL1000 Goldwing, 1983 CB 650SC Nighthawk, 1972 Honda CB 350K4, 74 Honda CB550
NEVER SNEAK UP ON A SLEEPING DOG..NOT EVEN YOUR OWN.
I would rather trust my bike to a "QUACK" that KNOWS how to fix it rather than a book worm that THINKS HE KNOWS how to fix it.
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I like the idea of always using the kill switch to turn off the bike. With that being my habit, when an emergency arises, I don't even need to think about how to kill the bike.https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B9zH8w8Civs8ejBJWjdvYi1LNTg&resourcekey=0-hlJp0Yc4K_VN9g7Jyy4KQg&authuser=fussbucket_1%40msn.com&usp=drive_fs
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1981 HD XLH
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Time you get the thought to hit the switch whatever is happening usually already has. About the only use is to kill the engine if its laying on it side so it doesn't seize due to oil starvation. Or to prevent a fire if the tanks leaking. But in ewither of these instances its already way past "thinking" or instinctively "reacting" to hit the switch.MY BIKES..1977 GS 750 B, 1978 GS 1000 C (X2)
1978 GS 1000 E, 1979 GS 1000 S, 1973 Yamaha TX 750, 1977 Kawasaki KZ 650B1, 1975 Honda GL1000 Goldwing, 1983 CB 650SC Nighthawk, 1972 Honda CB 350K4, 74 Honda CB550
NEVER SNEAK UP ON A SLEEPING DOG..NOT EVEN YOUR OWN.
I would rather trust my bike to a "QUACK" that KNOWS how to fix it rather than a book worm that THINKS HE KNOWS how to fix it.
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Originally posted by chuck hahn View PostTime you get the thought to hit the switch whatever is happening usually already has. About the only use is to kill the engine if its laying on it side so it doesn't seize due to oil starvation. Or to prevent a fire if the tanks leaking. But in ewither of these instances its already way past "thinking" or instinctively "reacting" to hit the switch.
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Originally posted by Boriqua View PostHey Chuck .. have you bypassed or disabled your switch or do you just not bother with it. I would have thought to leave mine alone and just not use it if it hadnt been for my past towing incident and yesterday accidentally flipping it.'84 GS750EF (Oct 2015 BOM) '79 GS1000N (June 2007 BOM) My Flickr site http://www.flickr.com/photos/soates50/
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well I bought some contact cleaner and will pull it apart tomorrow and have a looksy. I will decide then whether the solder iron comes out!!
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I just leave THEM alone. When any of them finally give up then ghost I will clip the wires and hot wire it inside the switch box. Until that happens they arent getting flipped on and off.MY BIKES..1977 GS 750 B, 1978 GS 1000 C (X2)
1978 GS 1000 E, 1979 GS 1000 S, 1973 Yamaha TX 750, 1977 Kawasaki KZ 650B1, 1975 Honda GL1000 Goldwing, 1983 CB 650SC Nighthawk, 1972 Honda CB 350K4, 74 Honda CB550
NEVER SNEAK UP ON A SLEEPING DOG..NOT EVEN YOUR OWN.
I would rather trust my bike to a "QUACK" that KNOWS how to fix it rather than a book worm that THINKS HE KNOWS how to fix it.
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The only problem I have with the kill switch is people using them and then forgetting to turn off the key and wearing their battery down. That's why I stress the use of the key only. I can't tell you how many times I've see people not being able to start their bike, only to find out they didn't put the switch back to the run position. Plus with Honda's, the engine will turn over without firing with the kill switch in the off position, so they never think about seeing if it is in the run position.:cool:GSRick
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Originally posted by gsrick View PostPlus with Honda's, the engine will turn over without firing with the kill switch in the off position, so they never think about seeing if it is in the run position.
I don't know exactly what year it changed, but the Goldwing would do that, up through about '96 or '97. We would walk down the line of bikes at a rally and randomly move the kill switch, then watch the frustration. My 2000 Wing will not crank if the kill switch is in the OFF position.
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mine: 2000 Honda GoldWing GL1500SE and 1980 GS850G'K' "Junior"
hers: 1982 GS850GL - "Angel" and 1969 Suzuki T250 Scrambler
#1 son: 1986 Yamaha Venture Royale 1300 and 1982 GS650GL "Rat Bagger"
#2 son: 1980 GS1000G
Family Portrait
Siblings and Spouses
Mom's first ride
Want a copy of my valve adjust spreadsheet for your 2-valve per cylinder engine? Send me an e-mail request (not a PM)
(Click on my username in the upper-left corner for e-mail info.)
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Originally posted by Steve View PostMake that SOME Hondas.
I don't know exactly what year it changed, but the Goldwing would do that, up through about '96 or '97. We would walk down the line of bikes at a rally and randomly move the kill switch, then watch the frustration. My 2000 Wing will not crank if the kill switch is in the OFF position.
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No God, no peace. Know God, know peace.
Eric Bang RIP 9/5/2018
Have some bikes ready for us when we meet up.
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Cosmically, I ended up looking at my 400E's contact switch yesterday because the starter button failed me when I wanted to goto town... luckily I have a lot of bikes but it took me another half an hour to choose....
On my orange toggle type (have you the same?) a mere glob of solder would do it... a piece of tin tucked in across the two contacts might also do as well. But your original complaint is that yours moves too easily so maybe just tucking some "friction" ( a bit of innertube? etc.) on the other side of the switch from the contacts would fix this too?
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