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    Speedometer needle replacement - is it possible?

    So I have a pile of '83 1100E instrument cluster parts, that have been sitting in a box since a GSR member gave them to me a few (or several?) years ago.
    It looks like I have everything I need to build one complete unit.

    The speed face is nicer on the one with the broken needle, so I would like to replace it with the good needle.
    But boy, that sure looks like something I could easily break, if I don't do it correctly.

    So, can the speedo needle be removed and replaced? Or is it something best avoided.

    Bob T. ~~ Play the GSR weekly photo game: Pic of Week Game
    '83 GS1100E ~ '24 Triumph Speed 400 ~ '01 TRIUMPH TT600 ~ '67 HONDA CUB
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    I have done it, but I have also broken a needle doing it. My second try was sucessful. I used a fork to get under the needle to pry it off of the post.

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    1981 HD XLH

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      #3
      There are curved-fork prybars and reversed pliers available, I have seen them both used successfully.

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        #4
        It sad when things break. The Nippon Seiki folks have the only proper needle removal tool ever made and only one guy is trained on how to use it.

        Ive removed needles it requires a straight shock pull.

        http://www.speedofixer.co.uk/media/images/user-images/4613/20_ecogaugespeedofixer-edit.jpg
        Last edited by Cipher; 05-05-2019, 02:59 PM.
        1983 GS 550 LD
        2009 BMW K1300s

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          #5
          Originally posted by Cipher View Post
          It sad when things break. The Nippon Seiki folks have the only proper needle removal tool ever made and only one guy is trained on how to use it.

          Ive removed needles it requires a straight shock pull.

          http://www.speedofixer.co.uk/media/images/user-images/4613/20_ecogaugespeedofixer-edit.jpg
          linky no worky. It shows as 301 Moved Permanently.
          Larry

          '79 GS 1000E
          '93 Honda ST 1100 SOLD-- now residing in Arizona.
          '18 Triumph Tiger 800 (gone too soon)
          '19 Triumph Tiger 800 Christmas 2018 to me from me.
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            #6
            I broke mine... fixed it with super glue about 5 years ago... still intact.
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              #7
              Thanks everyone, but I chickened out and used the gauge with the good needle.
              Turned out just fine.
              Pictures tomorrow...
              Bob T. ~~ Play the GSR weekly photo game: Pic of Week Game
              '83 GS1100E ~ '24 Triumph Speed 400 ~ '01 TRIUMPH TT600 ~ '67 HONDA CUB

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                #8
                Originally posted by alke46 View Post
                linky no worky. It shows as 301 Moved Permanently.
                I got the same message. Copied the link to paste it into a new tab, so I could edit it. Opened the new tab, pasted the link, it showed the picture. Not a very good indication of what it is and how it works, but the link is valid.

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                mine: 2000 Honda GoldWing GL1500SE and 1980 GS850G'K' "Junior"
                hers: 1982 GS850GL - "Angel" and 1969 Suzuki T250 Scrambler
                #1 son: 1986 Yamaha Venture Royale 1300 and 1982 GS650GL "Rat Bagger"
                #2 son: 1980 GS1000G
                Family Portrait
                Siblings and Spouses
                Mom's first ride
                Want a copy of my valve adjust spreadsheet for your 2-valve per cylinder engine? Send me an e-mail request (not a PM)
                (Click on my username in the upper-left corner for e-mail info.)

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                  #9
                  speedo repair tools
                  http://www.speedofixer.co.uk/tools.html
                  bmw e38 e39 pixel repair tool for eco gauge needle removal,


                  should be better. pricey but nice.
                  1983 GS 550 LD
                  2009 BMW K1300s

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                    #10
                    Noticed your redline is 9.5k. Many are 9k. Anybody know why?
                    1982 GS1100E V&H "SS" exhaust, APE pods, 1150 oil cooler, 140 speedo, 99.3 rear wheel HP, black engine, '83 red

                    2016 XL883L sigpic Two-tone blue and white. Almost 42 hp! Status: destroyed, now owned by the insurance company. The hole in my memory starts an hour before the accident and ends 24 hours after.

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                      #11
                      Originally posted by Rob S. View Post
                      Noticed your redline is 9.5k. Many are 9k. Anybody know why?
                      AFAIK...The '82s had a 9K redline, and the '83s had the 9.5 redline.
                      Why? I don't know.
                      Bob T. ~~ Play the GSR weekly photo game: Pic of Week Game
                      '83 GS1100E ~ '24 Triumph Speed 400 ~ '01 TRIUMPH TT600 ~ '67 HONDA CUB

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                        #12
                        Originally posted by Baatfam View Post
                        AFAIK...The '82s had a 9K redline, and the '83s had the 9.5 redline.
                        Why? I don't know.
                        I'm talking about '83's. I have '83 clocks on my '82 (for the 140 speedo), and the tach redlines at 9. I think most of the '83 11E tachs I've seen redline at 9.

                        I believe ALL '83 cranks are welded. Some say late production '82's are also welded. Maybe halfway through '83, the factory said, "Hey. These are welded. We can push the redline up a wee bit."

                        The 9.5 tach is cool. I wish I had one, but it's not nearly as important as the 140 speedo. Especially for a guy who likes to do the buck nearly every time he rides.
                        1982 GS1100E V&H "SS" exhaust, APE pods, 1150 oil cooler, 140 speedo, 99.3 rear wheel HP, black engine, '83 red

                        2016 XL883L sigpic Two-tone blue and white. Almost 42 hp! Status: destroyed, now owned by the insurance company. The hole in my memory starts an hour before the accident and ends 24 hours after.

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                          #13
                          Maybe someone dropped a '83 9.5 tach in your '82 cluster?
                          Originally posted by Rob S. View Post
                          The 9.5 tach is cool. I wish I had one...
                          I think I have another good one....
                          Last edited by Baatfam; 05-06-2019, 07:33 AM.
                          Bob T. ~~ Play the GSR weekly photo game: Pic of Week Game
                          '83 GS1100E ~ '24 Triumph Speed 400 ~ '01 TRIUMPH TT600 ~ '67 HONDA CUB

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                            #14
                            And done!



                            On the bike...

                            Bob T. ~~ Play the GSR weekly photo game: Pic of Week Game
                            '83 GS1100E ~ '24 Triumph Speed 400 ~ '01 TRIUMPH TT600 ~ '67 HONDA CUB

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                              #15
                              Try this link... http://www.speedofixer.co.uk/media/i...fixer-edit.jpg
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