Kuryakyn L.E.D. Battery Gauge

[fastbysuzuki]

For my 73rd birthday I treated myself to a Kuryakyn L.E.D. Battery Gauge
[h=2][/h]whats the feeling on installing it by splicing it onto the orange wire coming from the ignition switch or attaching it directly onto the battery and using a relay ?

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[Steve]

With those two choices, I would rather use a relay. :-k

There are a couple of reasons for that. One is that you are already reading a possible voltage drop after the ignition switch. Another is that the only fuse between the meter and the battery is a 15-amp fuse, and it's the MAIN fuse. That meter draws a mere fraction of an amp, so if some wires get crossed or damaged, there is going to be a LOT of smoke. If something happens to your wiring,

One comment on locating the gauge itself. If you ride very much at night, place the gauge where you can see it, but it's not pointing directly at you. The LEDs are rather directional and shine rather brightly, which is very distracting at night. If all your riding is in daytime, having it pointing directly at you lets you see the LEDs better.

Did you get the black one or the chrome?

Oh, yeah, pictures of the install are definitely required. :-\\\

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[fastbysuzuki]

Hi I ordered the black one, you stated out of the two choices you would go with the relay. My question, is there an alternative method you would recommend ?

 

[Gorminrider]

Orange wire is the best imo. Rather than a "splice" you might slip the bare "+" end in at the multi-connector, with a bit of glue or tape applied nearby to hold the wire so it doesn't winkle itself out....likewise its "-" groundwire can be slipped right through the bullet on any handy B/W (Black/White stripe)...the "bullet" ends are hollow. Just pass the bare end right through it and give it a little bend where it comes through and push the connection back together..or, similar.

Avoid "splices" whereever you can, especially installing doofunnies.

 

[Steve]

Hi I ordered the black one, you stated out of the two choices you would go with the relay. My question, is there an alternative method you would recommend ?

A lot of that would depend on exactly which voltage you want to track. :-k

If you want to track BATTERY voltage, you will want to use a relay that is triggered by a switched wire. The relay will be connected to the battery (through a fuse, of course) and the trigger can be provided by the SIGNALS fuse. It's a bit of overkill, but will give you the most accurate BATTERY voltage.

If you want to track a LOAD voltage, just slip your power lead for the meter in a connector for a coil or the headlight, like gorminrider suggested.

In my opinion, battery voltage is more important to know.

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[Sandy]

I used a relay for mine as voltage at the coils with stock wiring at best will be 0.5 volt below that of the battery. Same point of voltage I used when I ran the Honda RRs with the voltage sense wite.

 

[Gorminrider]

meh. Why does a super accurate inclusion of a 1/2 volt matter in this instance? You just want to know if there's a change.

Check at the battery, compare to connection on orange wire and remember the difference. The difference won't change...if it does, that's an indication of trouble too. (key switch, loose fuse,etc)

not to mention the relay itself uses power and drops system voltage (albeit slight), and adds complication.

not to mention (in the extreme) that the voltmeter itself drops voltage....relays are "baroque" where they're not needed.

 

[Sandy]

meh. Why does a super accurate inclusion of a 1/2 volt matter in this instance? You just want to know if there's a change.

Check at the battery, compare to connection on orange wire and remember the difference. The difference won't change...if it does, that's an indication of trouble too. (key switch, loose fuse,etc)

not to mention the relay itself uses power and drops system voltage (albeit slight), and adds complication.

not to mention (in the extreme) that the voltmeter itself drops voltage....relays are "baroque" where they're not needed.

Generally it doesn't matter except for maybe those with OCD and using a relay where is not required does add one more point of failure. Problem with the warning LEDs on this particular meter is if it reads low it could trigger a false negatiive by lighting the red LEDs. If one is alright with that then carry on. Also the Honda RRs with the sense wire will overcharge by whatever the voltage loss in the system is and will boil the battery dry in a few thousand kms.

 

[Gorminrider]

if it reads low it could trigger a false negatiive by lighting the red LEDs

Yes, It might show low a little more especially when the engine is not running or a heating vest" is plugged in and the picture of the led gauge does look like it could do as you say but unless I've got the wrong one...


"Green LEDs represent the normal operating range of your charging system, 12.5V to 14.5V" (from https://www.denniskirk.com/kuryakyn/led-battery-gauge-4219.p406777.prd/406777.sku)
fastbysuzuki's bike can hopefully muster 12.5v on the orange most of the time .

 

[LAB3]

From own experience and from what I've read here on the board, once you have your charging system system sorted out and a genuine SH775 regulator installed your charging system is pretty much bulletproof. Adding a gauge is really just a piece of eye candy at that point!

 

[Sandy]

From own experience and from what I've read here on the board, once you have your charging system system sorted out and a genuine SH775 regulator installed your charging system is pretty much bulletproof. Adding a gauge is really just a piece of eye candy at that point!

I actually moved mine over to another bike 3-4 years ago for testing/monitoring purposes and never found a need to reinstall it.

 

[fastbysuzuki]

Have been testing were to fit the Kuryakyn volt meter I did want to put it on the yoke but after Steve's comment about it being distracting I have to agree (although I don't do much riding in the dark never say never) so I have come to the conclusion that mounting it on the left hand handle bar switch seemed ok as it does not distract it does reflect a little on the chrome mirror stem but not to distract.
any comment / ldea's ?
its not fitted yet.

 

[Steve]

YOU are the only one that will be able to tell whethe it's right for YOU, but overall, that location is not bad.

Just try to mount it so you can change the angle if you find that it's too bright or not bright enough.

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[Gorminrider]

Mount it so you can move it later. Things like this get constant attention when they are new but after awhile, the BIG thrill wears off and they get the odd glance when you know what "normal" is...it's "something to check", like other instrument gauges...and "unusual" readings that gives the instrument its value.

 

[Sandy]

I mounted mine here on a piece of Velcro and it stayed put for years. I don't ride much at night so never really noticed it being too bright. If it's too bright just detach and change the angle a bit. I'm sure you're aware but it does have a sensor to dim itself a bit. Another thing is that the back on mine was not attached very well nor was it very waterproof so i popped the back off, re-glued it and smeared a bit of clear silicone in the seam and where the wires come out.

 

[Wingsconsin]

From own experience and from what I've read here on the board, once you have your charging system system sorted out and a genuine SH775 regulator installed your charging system is pretty much bulletproof. Adding a gauge is really just a piece of eye candy at that point!

Respectfully disagree --
I have a NEW stator - New SSH775 R & R - New coils - New wires - and a 2 year old battery -
My Voltmeter was showing a slight reduction in typical and usual output while I was out on a 450 mile ride (which was supposed to be more but I aborted)
The resultant gremlin chasing lead me to a failing battery (even in spite of it's young age) which might have stranded me far from home --

My Meter is digital and mounted in a project box on the handlebar -
It runs off a relay and is extremely accurate in showing me voltage at the battery - I checked with my handheld volt meter

Being a very inept electrical mechanic I need all the help and information I can get