2 regulators installed? Why me

[open1mind]

So, I know some folks wanted to know more about how 2 regs could have possibly been left installed by a dealer, much less for the bike to still work/charge (marginally)
Unless I have my part numbers wrong, here is a pic of the Suzuki Reg that I pulled out of the bike tonight. IMG_2898.jpg

[open1mind]

And then on to the next mystery. This component was still installed on the panel, with an intact fuse in it--- but the red wire was snipped downstream and there was nothing at all connected to it. It certainly looks factory, and there is a nice clean cover on it, but it certainly wasnt contributing to the cause of advancing electrons in any way!
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[open1mind]

So, I think I made some progress by removing the two R/R's and then also the Stator cover tonight. The first thing that I noticed is that the outgoing stator has 5 wires, and the new one is only 3. As I read the manual and all of the good posts here, the 3 is what we want, and I will hook it up to the SH775 only- as suggested.

That aside, I am still dreading getting the harness back to something sane and san-itary. There a few wires to account for. From the battery, the larger gauge red + line does go to the fuse box (seems stock and correct), so that is encouraging. From the fuse box, we have a red coming off it and going up into the harness connections along with the stock orange wires, but the red + does it in a clearly NON Stock way. The photo shows where that red connects in, and the "left over" wires from where I removed some the connections coming from the two regulators and the stator that was installed. I have some wiring diagram study to make sense of that, but thats it for tonight....
Thanks to all.

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[tom203]

Ok, stator cover off....do you have the 18 pole stator?

[open1mind]

So I count 18 in the pic below, and in the one that I just received from Rick's. The pic is from right after getting the cover off the bike. Note the amount of gasket sealer. No extra charge for that, and least it never leaked!


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[Gorminrider]

well, the picture is too small..but look, the original stator came with 3 wires and not 5. (sigh I was going to say that Hopefully these two extras aren't from a special stator with a high voltage coil intended for a Capacitive Discharge Ignition that has been fitted to your bike...it originally had points...)

Seeing as you already ran out and bought a lot of new stuff, I would not puzzle over the original separate Regulator and Rectifier connections and wiring unless you are really interested..Don't throw them away unless you are sure they are broken. They can be handy unless you are really short of a hoarder's shelf space...

So, hooking a new stator with correct number of "poles" to your new R/R should be easy peasy...as Posplayer said, I think, you should find some kind of red wire that "Ts" into that red wire from the fuse box that is on its way all the way to the key...(the key switched to ON sends Red's power to the orange which then sends it back to the fuse box to be distributed among the electrics..)

You could splice onto the red if it's a long enough stub OR unwind the harness tape and redo the splice OR you can just make a red wire to goto the same place that key-bound red wire comes off the fuse....

[Grimly]

Run a screwdriver around the inside of the rotor and count how many magnet poles there are.

[Rijko]

And then on to the next mystery. This component was still installed on the panel, with an intact fuse in it--- but the red wire was snipped downstream and there was nothing at all connected to it. It certainly looks factory, and there is a nice clean cover on it, but it certainly wasnt contributing to the cause of advancing electrons in any way!
[ATTACH=CONFIG]60235[/ATTACH]

That's an accessory box Suzuki built in for people that need an extra
power wire. You don't need to put it back.

[open1mind]

That's an accessory box Suzuki built in for people that need an extra
power wire. You don't need to put it back.

Thats was my hunch... and to spare parts heaven it goes.

The good news is that it clears up some space on the side panel. The SH775 arrived in the mail yesterday, and man that thing has some dimensions. Im not sure if I can fit it in the panel (now after removing the to RR's that were installed there), but we'll see. I note that others have installed it on/under the battery box. Could that be desirable? Sounds like it would be more likely to collect grime/corrosion than under the side panel...

We'll see....

[Steve]

So, I know some folks wanted to know more about how 2 regs could have possibly been left installed by a dealer, much less for the bike to still work/charge (marginally)
Unless I have my part numbers wrong, here is a pic of the Suzuki Reg that I pulled out of the bike tonight. [ATTACH=CONFIG]60233[/ATTACH]

If you can't get another picture with just the part number, can you at least type them in?
That picture is too small to read, and gets real grainy when trying to enlarge.

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[open1mind]

Heres a better pic, but sorry about the inverted. The number is 32500-49010, IMG_2870.jpg

[open1mind]

And here is the other RR that was installed- seems to match a Rick's stock number to me.
Doesnt matter I suppose- both have been removed now.

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[Gorminrider]

Yes I'm pretty sure you're right-that's the original regulator..Nippon Denso 32500-???? cmnsl has full # as 3250049010
Rectifier given as 3280049030 superseded by 3280044010.. a rectfier is not the same as a regulator. This bike split the two functions into two components, which is mildly interesting and old fashioned I guess. I've seen it before but I don't know another reason for it exept possibly more cooling area?

ND stuff is suspect on Suzukis as far as I'm concerned...

[posplayr]

Yes I'm pretty sure you're right-that's the original regulator..Nippon Denso 32500-???? cmnsl has full # as 3250049010
Rectifier given as 3280049030 superseded by 3280044010.. a rectfier is not the same as a regulator. This bike split the two functions into two components, which is mildly interesting and old fashioned I guess. I've seen it before but I don't know another reason for it exept possibly more cooling area?

ND stuff is suspect on Suzukis as far as I'm concerned...

Cooling is the only reason i can think of as well.

[Steve]

I can't see the number on the Rick's device, but it is likely a full R/R unit. However, the number given for the Suzuki item shows up on the parts fiche as a "Regurator". Yeah, they really mean Regulator, but there is also a separate Rectifier shown. Something failed initially, A Rick's unit was installed, but not all of the failed components were removed during the repair.

Then there is always the possibility that someone said "hey, let's leave this here and confuse someone a few years from now".

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