LED Brake Lights : SYLVANIA - 3157 ZEVO LED Red Bulb

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EDIT Feb 21, 2020

I bought these lights for my 1997 Ford E-350 van. I replaced:

• the two front blinker/marker light (3157) (Amber)
• the two rear blinker/marker light (3157) (RED)
• the two rear backup lights (3156) (White)

I bought a pair each of RED,Amber, White

They are definitely brighter than stock incandescent lights. The only anomaly is that when the blinker is on on one side the other side glows slightly. You can only see this in the day as your lights will mask it, and for daytime, the amount of light emitted from the opposite side is very small to probably be unnoticeable. This may be a function of the flasher module. I just don't know i have not tried to diagnose it.


https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...?ie=UTF8&psc=1

Will report back on longevity, but they look like quality lights and only about $8 per bulb.

The nice thing about these build is the same bulb will fit into an single (3156) or dual filament (3157) socket.

The main thing to look for in a 1156/1157 bulb is the projector lense on the end. That really increase the light when viewed head on.
EDIT Feb 12, 2020:

These seem to be a new style 115/1157 bulb with a projector on the end to increase light focus. Based on the reviews they are all brighter than a stock incandescent.

https://www.amazon.com/ANTLINE-Extremely-Chipsets-Replacement-Reverse/dp/B07P8SY6S3/ref=redir_mobile_desktop?_encoding=UTF8&aaxitk=PvT 5YLPwk8jbJ1u6fOOtLw&hsa_cr_id=7517422860801&ref_=s b_s_sparkle

I found a video posted where the reviewer converted from incandescent to LED 3157 bulbs using SYLVANIA - 3157 ZEVO LED . Anybody using these? These are bayonet style not the 1157 style but they seem brighter.

https://www.amazon.com/SYLVANIA-Bright-Ideal-Lights-Contains/dp/B01A77RU5I/ref=asc_df_B01A77RU5I/?tag=hyprod-20&linkCode=df0&hvadid=312089957955&hvpos=&hvnetw= g&hvrand=5192627477381756379&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt =&hvdev=c&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=9051700&hvt argid=aud-800640527683la-571128390235&psc=1

The video is here. The brake lights look impressessive and work will with the flasher shown

https://www.amazon.com/gp/customer-reviews/RT878D4666FNB/ref=cm_cr_dp_d_rvw_ttl?ie=UTF8&ASIN=B01HPSZZXQ

https://www.amazon.com/Purishion-Strobe-Controller-Flasher-Module/dp/B01HPSZZXQ/ref=pd_sbs_263_1/140-3985130-9864455?_encoding=UTF8&pd_rd_i=B01HPSZZXQ&pd_rd_r=109ad52a-61a7-40f7-a6fe-3efcd9bf1110&pd_rd_w=64ZxY&pd_rd_wg=UFoBu&pf_rd_p=547f2794-55d2-4e81-a21e-8fe99f7ce60a&pf_rd_r=YRVP741M4Z0P77SXK6SW&psc=1&refRID=YRVP741M4Z0P77SXK6SW

[Steve]

I have wondered about the lights, but have not seen them installed in anything.

Some of my lights get mounted axially (connectors pointing away from the lens), others get mounted parallel to the lens, so I don't know how the ZEVO lights would work. And, at $25+ for the pair, it's not a cheap experiment.

Watched the video. As much as I like modulated brake lights for the bike, I'm not sure I like them on the car. I have seen many of the newer cars that flash the center light, but I don't know about flashing (and strobing) all of them.

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[LAB3]

Watched the video. As much as I like modulated brake lights for the bike, I'm not sure I like them on the car. I have seen many of the newer cars that flash the center light, but I don't know about flashing (and strobing) all of them.

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Seems to me I remembered modulated lights being outlawed due to the possibility of their effects on people with epilepsy.

[posplayr]

I have wondered about the lights, but have not seen them installed in anything.

Some of my lights get mounted axially (connectors pointing away from the lens), others get mounted parallel to the lens, so I don't know how the ZEVO lights would work. And, at $25+ for the pair, it's not a cheap experiment.

Watched the video. As much as I like modulated brake lights for the bike, I'm not sure I like them on the car. I have seen many of the newer cars that flash the center light, but I don't know about flashing (and strobing) all of them.

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It looks like in California at least you can do 4 flashes in 4 seconds MAX before going solid on. As best as I can interpret that can apply to all of the legal lights.
In AZ all factory lights have to be functional, but I have not see anything specifically saying if blinking or in what amount is legal. The warning is if a 3rd light does not blink and you have one, the cops have probable cause to stop you.
Much as I would like to do it, I'm on the fence as to weather it is worth it. It also seems I would need to make my own as I have not found a flasher (cheap) to do the California legal pattern.

While lighting can vary wildly especially with cameras on auto exposure, the video seem to show a high contrast brake light with LEDs.

[Gorminrider]

Just imagine if everybody used them...no thanks!

Otherwise, I think this is a case of garnering too much attention...the major caution for collision avoidance (on curves and driving a car in snow etc.) is "you go where you are looking". If someone is staring at my modulating headlight, that is not a good thing for me, or the rest of the drivers an pedestrians on the road.

I just want to be "counted" in the calculation other drivers are making.

[mrbill5491]

I found a video posted where the reviewer converted from incandescent to LED 3157 bulbs using SYLVANIA - 3157 ZEVO LED . Anybody using these? These are bayonet style not the 1157 style but they seem brighter.

I'm using one kind of like that though with the 1157 style base. The running light is way brighter and the brake light is much brighter as well.

[posplayr]

Just imagine if everybody used them...no thanks!

Otherwise, I think this is a case of garnering too much attention...the major caution for collision avoidance (on curves and driving a car in snow etc.) is "you go where you are looking". If someone is staring at my modulating headlight, that is not a good thing for me, or the rest of the drivers an pedestrians on the road.

I just want to be "counted" in the calculation other drivers are making.

The 1156/1157 are turn signal and brake lights not headlamps. Headlamp modulators only apply to motorcycles. The brake light flashing is only intermittent after first apply the brakes, not constant like the headlamp modulators.

[posplayr]

I'm using one kind of like that though with the 1157 style base. The running light is way brighter and the brake light is much brighter as well.

Do you have a link of what you bought?

[mrbill5491]

Do you have a link of what you bought?

No I don't, I bought it some time ago and don't remember where from...

[Steve]

Seems to me I remembered modulated lights being outlawed due to the possibility of their effects on people with epilepsy.

I have heard that tale as well, but it has been debunked many times over. The frequencies that trigger epileptic attacks are usually 5-30 Hz. Brake light modulators are usually in the 2-4 Hz range, and only for a few seconds. No idea what a typical 'trigger time' might be, but usually a bit more than just a few seconds.

Much as I would like to do it, I'm on the fence as to weather it is worth it. It also seems I would need to make my own as I have not found a flasher (cheap) to do the California legal pattern.

Many of the vendors that offer brake modulators for bikes also have a "California legal" version. I will have to pay attention to some of the newer cars that have a flashing third brake light to see if the only flash four times. If they go more, they would have to have a California version of that car.

If someone is staring at my modulating headlight, that is not a good thing for me, or the rest of the drivers an pedestrians on the road.

I have a headlight (and brake light) modulator on my Wing. I have always tried to use it courteously by turning it off as I approach certain situations, like 4-way stops. I don't want anyone thinking I am an emergency vehicle and need the right-of-way. Also have it off when following one vehicle for any length of time on the highway. Have only had one situation that scared me a bit. On a two-lane road in the country, an oncoming vehicle slowed and pulled onto the (minimal) shoulder. The car following it started to pass, then saw my oncoming bike with the modulated (not 'flashing') headlight and also stopped. There was just enough uncertainty in that situation that had me concerned. The first vehicle probably thought I was an emergency vehicle and dutifully pulled over, giving the right-of-way. The second vehicle simply did not know why they pulled over and pulled out to pass.

Headlamp modulators only apply to motorcycles. The brake light flashing is only intermittent after first apply the brakes, not constant like the headlamp modulators.

I have been under that impression, too, but I saw a pickup truck just the other day that had ... shall we say "intermittent" headlights? Both headlights flashing in unison, and at about the correct rate for a modulator, 4 Hz. Have not checked the local laws recently to see if 4-wheelers are now allowed to use modulators.

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[posplayr]

These style of 3156/3157 bulbs has a projector on the end for increased light intensity. Apparently they will work in either an 3156 or 3157 socket.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07HRJCMZN/ref=ox_sc_act_title_2?smid=A1HUKFKSGZID4U&psc=1

[Gorminrider]

I have been under that impression, too, but I saw a pickup truck just the other day that had ... shall we say "intermittent" headlights? Both headlights flashing in unison, and at about the correct rate for a modulator, 4 Hz. Have not checked the local laws recently to see if 4-wheelers are now allowed to use modulators.

I've seen similar to this too..sometimes on just one light, sometimes both going alternately. usually on pickups or BMW-types tricked out by owners... I suspect some of these high power leds have pulsing circuitry..they flash at a frame-rate like a movie to keep the circuitry cool... It can be seen reviewing my dash cam footage sometimes...

[Gorminrider]

The 1156/1157 are turn signal and brake lights not headlamps. Headlamp modulators only apply to motorcycles. The brake light flashing is only intermittent after first apply the brakes, not constant like the headlamp modulators.

yes, sorry for the general rant ..but, did you know American Motors tested and considered an extra tail light that showed amber when you took your foot off the gas? Another "good idea" that fell by the wayside?

[posplayr]

yes, sorry for the general rant ..but, did you know American Motors tested and considered an extra tail light that showed amber when you took your foot off the gas? Another "good idea" that fell by the wayside?

No not specifically, but I do know there have been various self contained devices that sense deceleration to modulate the brake light. The California code does mention devices related to downshift as being legal and other such but you would have to look up the specifics.

Search Phrase:

CODE TEXT

VEHICLE CODE - VEH

DIVISION 12. EQUIPMENT OF VEHICLES [24000 - 28160]

( Division 12 enacted by Stats. 1959, Ch. 3. )
CHAPTER 2. Lighting Equipment [24250 - 26106]

( Chapter 2 enacted by Stats. 1959, Ch. 3. )

ARTICLE 7. Flashing and Colored Lights [25250 - 25282]

( Article 7 enacted by Stats. 1959, Ch. 3. )

25251.5.

(a) Any motor vehicle may also be equipped with a system in which an amber light is center mounted on the rear of a vehicle to communicate a component of deceleration of the vehicle, and which light pulses in a controlled fashion at a rate which varies exponentially with a component of deceleration.
(b) Any motor vehicle may be equipped with two amber lamps on the rear of the vehicle which operate simultaneously with not more than four flashes within four seconds after the accelerator pedal is in the deceleration position and which are not lighted at any other time. The lamps shall be mounted at the same height, with one lamp located on each side of the vertical centerline of the vehicle, not higher than the bottom of the rear window, or if the vehicle has no rear window, not higher than 60 inches. The light output from each of the lamps shall not exceed 200 candlepower at any angle horizontal or above. The amber lamps may be used either separately or in combination with another lamp.
(c) Any stoplamp or supplemental stoplamp required or permitted by Section 24603 may be equipped so as to flash not more than four times within the first four seconds after actuation by application of the brakes.
(Amended by Stats. 1983, Ch. 410, Sec. 3.)

https://leginfo.legislature.ca.gov/faces/codes_displaySection.xhtml?lawCode=VEH&sectionNum=25251.5

[posplayr]

These seem to be a new style 115/1157 bulb with a projector on the end to increase light focus. Based on the reviews they are all brighter than a stock incandescent.

https://www.amazon.com/ANTLINE-Extremely-Chipsets-Replacement-Reverse/dp/B07P8SY6S3/ref=redir_mobile_desktop?_encoding=UTF8&aaxitk=PvT 5YLPwk8jbJ1u6fOOtLw&hsa_cr_id=7517422860801&ref_=s b_s_sparkle