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    Basic battery question

    Anyone tested the difference if any in longevity between a wet cell and sealed of the same amperage/hour battery? I can go with either so just asking.

    #2
    A wet cell can last almost as long, but you have to ensure that it ALWAYS has enough electrolyte in it.

    A sealed battery merely ensures that the electrolyte does not escape.

    Or, you can go one step better and get an AGM battery. That is a construction style (absorbed glass mat), not a brand name. Not only is it sealed, the plates are thinner, so more of them can be put into the available space. Thinner plates are a bit more fragile, so there is a fiberglass insulator mat placed between the plates to keep them from moving around, shorting that cell. Because there are more plates, there is a bit more capacity for the same physical size battery.

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      #3
      Your bike (and maybe you) will last a lot longer with an AGM battery that can't puke battery acid onto the frame, chain, etc.

      To put it bluntly, there's absolutely no excuse nowadays for installing a "wet" battery in any motorcycle.

      AGM batteries last a lot longer, usually have a little more capacity, and they won't puke battery acid and acid vapors onto your bike. This one's a no-brainer.

      Cheap wet batteries are the absolute fakest of all false economies.
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        #4
        Originally posted by bwringer View Post
        Cheap wet batteries are the absolute fakest of all false economies.
        Ah...That could explain this: https://www.thegsresources.com/_foru...es-in-new-cars
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          #5
          Originally posted by Baatfam View Post
          Face it, Bob, that is evidently not a "cheap wet battery".

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            #6
            I still consider a wet battery is a little more rugged if your R/R fails and you catch the water-loss in time....I haven't had this happen with my single AGM but it's a possibility...They seem a little more finicky especially in smaller sizes. AND, for what it's worth to people here, the manufacturer's catalogue entry for our bikes will usually offer a wet cell.

            A new-to-me bike doesn't get a fancy battery until I am sure I love it a lot ...and, the wet-cell in my cars? hardly ever look at them..twice a year maybe and a decent one lasts for year and years...
            Last edited by Gorminrider; 02-29-2020, 01:11 PM.

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              #7
              An extra $20 is not what I consider fancy

              Car batteries do not have anywhere near the physical stresses that motorcycle batteries have to endure
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                #8
                My decision comes from access to batt. 3 of my bikes, the batt is very easily accessible, wet is cheeeper, with no other problems so usually, they get wet cell. Other 3 bikes, batt. is an aggravation & a lot harder to get to, they always get the AGM. Haven't kept records, but have not noticed any difference in longevity
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                  #9
                  Originally posted by bwringer View Post
                  To put it bluntly, there's absolutely no excuse nowadays for installing a "wet" battery in any motorcycle.
                  Seconded...!
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                    #10
                    Originally posted by Big T View Post
                    An extra $20 is not what I consider fancy

                    Car batteries do not have anywhere near the physical stresses that motorcycle batteries have to endure
                    How do you figure that? dirt bikes being dumped- sure...but there's little operational "stress" on either except starting if the charging system works...batterries are sized to turn the engine over.

                    $20? you must mean Walmart. The $20 towards a better wet cell would be a better buy, IMO.
                    Last edited by Gorminrider; 03-01-2020, 11:50 AM.

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                      #11
                      My GS 1000 needs a new battery this year and I was considering the difference between a Interstate vs the Motobatt brand.
                      I think I saw a picture of the Interstate brand and it showed the terminals reversed from what I need.

                      Isn't it true that the Motobatt has the terminals in the center so it can be installed with the proper orientation?
                      Larry

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                        #12
                        Originally posted by alke46 View Post
                        My GS 1000 needs a new battery this year and I was considering the difference between a Interstate vs the Motobatt brand.
                        I think I saw a picture of the Interstate brand and it showed the terminals reversed from what I need.

                        Isn't it true that the Motobatt has the terminals in the center so it can be installed with the proper orientation?
                        The Motobatt has 4 terminals
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                          #13
                          Larry,

                          I put an Interstate AGM battery in mine. #YTX14AH(L)-BS if that helps. Are the 78 and 79 models different?
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                            #14
                            Well, I think it's safe to say that no owner of an '82 or '83 11E will want a wet battery. I mean, even if you have pods, displacing the tank and removing a frame submember just to access the battery?!?

                            I'm old enough to remember the days when you opened the seat with two fingers and bam! There was the battery.
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                              #15
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