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Originally posted by timebombprod View Post
It will answer that question.Last edited by pdqford; 05-08-2021, 02:47 PM.Jim, in Central New York State.
1980 GS750E (bought used June,1983)
1968 CB350 Super Sport (bought new Oct,1968)
1962 CA77 305 Dream (bought used Feb,1963)
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Originally posted by timebombprod View Post
When i checked the fuel gauge wires KOEO I checked both, one just showed the battery voltage so it was the negative, and the other showed a whopping 7 volts. Now I'm not missing 7 volts from my coils but I'm sure it is taking a good bit of voltage.
What to do?
I’m old enough that I can only work on one issue at a time.Jim, in Central New York State.
1980 GS750E (bought used June,1983)
1968 CB350 Super Sport (bought new Oct,1968)
1962 CA77 305 Dream (bought used Feb,1963)
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Well darn, looking at diagram the only things the coilpacks are hooked up to is the ignitor which has been deleted, so now its signal genrator to the coilpacks, and also the engine killswitch.
The signal genrator is new and it gets its 12dcv off the engine killswitch, so I'm not sure where to go at with this being that they've been cleaned.
I do know I'm losing a volt at the killswitch and i will check the wire connection i recently cleaned that's between the fusebox and that, but that's all i really can check.
Another thing i will do is press the starter button and have the motor spin and check the coilpack voltage at that point.Ian
1982 GS650GLZ
1982 XS650
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Heres what I noticed, losing 3.12v at the ignition connection from the signal generator to the connection that goes to the coils.Ian
1982 GS650GLZ
1982 XS650
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Originally posted by timebombprod View PostWell darn, looking at diagram the only things the coilpacks are hooked up to is the ignitor which has been deleted, so now its signal genrator to the coilpacks, and also the engine killswitch.
The igniter is connected to one coil via a white wire and to the other coil via a black wire. The ignition does not provide power TO the coil, it provides a ground to the coil when it wants the coil to get charged up, (Which let’s current flow through the coil), and it takes away the ground when it wants the coil to generate the spark.
But since you have deleted the ignitor and hooked the coils to the signal generator, I have no wiring diagram or experience with your modification. What provides the igniters function of turning the coils on and off at the correct time in your set up?Jim, in Central New York State.
1980 GS750E (bought used June,1983)
1968 CB350 Super Sport (bought new Oct,1968)
1962 CA77 305 Dream (bought used Feb,1963)
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Originally posted by pdqford View PostTypically one wire splits into three wires and those three wires feed power to the ignition, the left coil, and right coil. So those three items are “in parallel”.
The igniter is connected to one coil via a white wire and to the other coil via a black wire. The ignition does not provide power TO the coil, it provides a ground to the coil when it wants the coil to get charged up, (Which let’s current flow through the coil), and it takes away the ground when it wants the coil to generate the spark.
But since you have deleted the ignitor and hooked the coils to the signal generator, I have no wiring diagram or experience with your modification. What provides the igniters function of turning the coils on and off at the correct time in your set up?
The dyna S signal genrator has ignition points you have to time for the correct sparking pattern, I've got that figured out. It hooks up to the same wires the ignitor hooked up to but skips that whole section.Ian
1982 GS650GLZ
1982 XS650
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Originally posted by timebombprod View PostThe dyna S signal genrator has ignition points you have to time for the correct sparking pattern, I've got that figured out. It hooks up to the same wires the ignitor hooked up to but skips that whole section.
If you are getting a significant voltage drop on the coil ground side circuit, maybe the points are dirty creating resistance, or maybe the points and/or signal generator don’t have a good ground.Jim, in Central New York State.
1980 GS750E (bought used June,1983)
1968 CB350 Super Sport (bought new Oct,1968)
1962 CA77 305 Dream (bought used Feb,1963)
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Originally posted by pdqford View PostOh, okay. So the points in the Dyna S must make and break the ground side of the coil circuit to turn the coils on and off.
If you are getting a significant voltage drop on the coil ground side circuit, maybe the points are dirty creating resistance, or maybe the points and/or signal generator don’t have a good ground.Ian
1982 GS650GLZ
1982 XS650
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Okay so checked the ignition switch wires, right at where it plugs, I'm losing .6v at the red wire which leads to the fuse and also my R/R. And losing about 1.8v on my brown wire which leads to tail/brake light. Losing .7v from orange wire which goes to fusebox. And losing 1.6v from white wire which goes to my speedo and fuel gauge light. What's weird is my green wire isnt green but white, this ignition switch is from suzuki.
What to do? Connections at plug for ignition are clean, and most of these wires go to lights.
Cleaned the brown wire connection that's under the seat, and cleaned rear light contacts, now its 1.7v.
I was looking at the black and white wire that is also attached to brake light and holy crap it must go everywhereLast edited by timebombprod; 05-10-2021, 11:39 AM.Ian
1982 GS650GLZ
1982 XS650
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Just checked the splice where killswitch and coils meet, and it's basically the same voltage loss I'm having at the coilpacks, 3.3v. Checked before and after the splice and it's the same, so it must be before the splice, gonna have to follow the wire to where it goes.Ian
1982 GS650GLZ
1982 XS650
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My spell check thing keeps changing some of my typing!
Maybe your Does also.
Just for my clarification, are you cleaning the outside of the wires and switches, or have you actually disassembled the ignition switch and kill switch to clean any corrosion off their contacts?Jim, in Central New York State.
1980 GS750E (bought used June,1983)
1968 CB350 Super Sport (bought new Oct,1968)
1962 CA77 305 Dream (bought used Feb,1963)
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Originally posted by pdqford View PostMy spell check thing keeps changing some of my typing!
Maybe your Does also.
Just for my clarification, are you cleaning the outside of the wires and switches, or have you actually disassembled the ignition switch and kill switch to clean any corrosion off their contacts?Ian
1982 GS650GLZ
1982 XS650
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