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    From Bad to Worse: Getting My '82 GS850 Running Again

    Newbie here! I've been wrestling with my 850 for just a few weeks now. I've had some strange issues—as of now, it won't idle at all.

    I bought it a couple of years ago and stored it at a friend's house a few hours away because I had planned to move to his city. Long story short, though my friend rode and started it a few times it basically sat for two years. He ended up flooding it pretty badly at one point because he didn't know how to operate the petcock I have no idea how long it sat like that, and when drained there was definitely more fuel than oil (more on that in a second). Flushed it with oil and heat-cycled it a few times with new plugs when I found out.

    It's pretty heavily modified with a scrambler treatment. Pods (with extenders?) and custom 4-1 exhaust, rejetted with 135 mains to work. Insanely enough, there's a whole YouTube series on the build here. It's pretty slick, and was running decently... at the time.

    After moving last summer, I'm finally getting the thing out. Initially, it fired up pretty easily with the choke and just had a slightly rough idle. Amazingly, this was without the air filters—don't ask me why I ran it without them, some of the boots are trashed and I was antsy. I figured it just needed a good carb clean, and took it for a couple of rides to get a feel for the bike. On the second ride, I was pulling out onto an incline and the bike just quit out of nowhere. No power. I figured it was probably either the battery or the charging circuit, so I got a new battery and checked the resistance on the stator. Resistances read back as good but, strangely, the bike showed no sign of working with a new battery. The old one was also nearly completely dead. After messing with it a bit, I realized the ignition would work but the (aftermarket) gauge cluster and headlight wouldn't. After starting it a few times everything decided to work again, but it ran noticeably worse.

    So I limp it back to my friend's garage and write off the electricals as a fluke (maybe a short?). I give the carbs a decent carb-spray clean, make sure the air screws are 3 turns out (just a feeling based on how lean it seemed), and throw them back on. Won't start. With the choke all the way out and some throttle it'll come to life, but it dies immediately without it.

    After coming back a couple of days later and trying to do the same thing, it won't even turn over with throttle. Just cranks and then backfires. On top of that, my new sparkplugs are fouled and I found one with a bit of oil on the threads.

    Now I'm no mechanic, but I'm going back through everything I can think of and doing things the right way. On my to-do list:
    • Full carb teardown/rebuild/sync
    • Cleaning the gas tank/petcock (petcock vacuum works)
    • Replacing boots on the air filters (a couple are pretty torn up)
    • Replacing plugs (again) and verifying ignition coils
    • Valves—PO did some adjustments to the top end, and replaced all the gaskets. He did adjust the clearances right to the bottom of the clearance range though, so I'm thinking that's probably a good thing to check.
    • Valve seals—this one seems like a real headache, but between the plugs fouling up so quickly, finding oil on one of them, and the absolutely insane way the engine flooded, I think it might be necessary.
    There are multiple things that I have no idea how to do here, but I'm confident I can figure it out with the right tools.

    Am I missing anything? Those things seem like the most obvious starting points, but I definitely welcome extra ideas.

    And if you really read all that, I owe you a beer lol. Thanks!

    #2
    Welcome.

    Sounds like a solid plan. I groaned audibly when I read "..... give the carbs a decent carb-spray clean". Good that you realize they need to be completely dismantles and thoroughly cleaned. See CV Carb Rebuild Tutorial by Ed Ness Nessism found on Bike Cliff's Website, first link in my signature.

    Your to do list looks good. Other considerations can be found throughout the forum but a good first read is the Top 10 Newbie Mistakes Thread, also linked below.

    Oh yeah, your Reg/Rec is likely toast, probably your stator too. You can read my Charging system saga, it's a pretty thorough, but typical tale of the GS charging system. You see links and guidance in that thread on how to diagnose your charging system. You guessed it, in my signature.

    Oh yeah # 2 . We like pictures.
    Rich
    1982 GS 750TZ
    2015 Triumph Tiger 1200

    BikeCliff's / Charging System Sorted / Posting Pics
    Destroy-Rebuild 750T/ Destroy-Rebuild part deux

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      #3
      Haha, thanks for the welcome, and the resources, Rich. I knew a rebuild for the carbs was best, but I really wanted to avoid it. Just about every screw on these carbs is completely seized in place. Just tried to get the gang plates off today—no luck, but hopefully a good overnight soak in good ol' blaster will help Tore into it as much as I could with them still ganged together.

      I'll add the charging circuit back onto my list to check once I get her capable of an idle and go back over the newbie thread. I'm definitely amassing quite the early summer to-do list!

      I don't have much in the way of pics yet since she's all apart, but here are a few from the PO and just after parking it in my friend's garage. Imgur link.

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        #4
        Use an impact driver on the gang bolts.
        MY BIKES..1977 GS 750 B, 1978 GS 1000 C (X2)
        1978 GS 1000 E, 1979 GS 1000 S, 1973 Yamaha TX 750, 1977 Kawasaki KZ 650B1, 1975 Honda GL1000 Goldwing, 1983 CB 650SC Nighthawk, 1972 Honda CB 350K4, 74 Honda CB550

        NEVER SNEAK UP ON A SLEEPING DOG..NOT EVEN YOUR OWN.


        I would rather trust my bike to a "QUACK" that KNOWS how to fix it rather than a book worm that THINKS HE KNOWS how to fix it.

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          #5
          Cool. Looks rough, chopped up considerably. Be sure to use JIS screwdrivers. A regular Phillips will round out those cross head screws in short order. The wire mesh side panels are cool. You’ll get there. If you want to post pics like below instead of just a link, There’s a method. You already have an Imgur account so you’re half way there. Have a read of my Flickr/Imgur thread in my signature.









          Last edited by Rich82GS750TZ; 05-14-2023, 08:36 PM.
          Rich
          1982 GS 750TZ
          2015 Triumph Tiger 1200

          BikeCliff's / Charging System Sorted / Posting Pics
          Destroy-Rebuild 750T/ Destroy-Rebuild part deux

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            #6
            I was scrolling through your post and went, hey, I recognize that bike... I think I saw his videos on YouTube about it! Sure enough, clicked your link and yep, I've watched your videos on your gs850! I'm in the middle of an 82 gs850 overhaul myself and have been watching about every video on the ole YouTube relating to them!

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              #7
              Definitely a project for sure, she's in need of some cleaning and paint. Thanks again for the tips Rich! JIS impacts are in the mail.

              So awesome that you've seen the videos Buffalo! The kid definitely put a ton of work and love into this bike, and I've been impressed with how informative his channel is. Super excited to see how your 850 turns out!

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