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    Stripped lower hex bolt on bottom of forks

    I had to change the fork seals on the fork on my GS 550e 1980.
    An awful job if your already fixing mowers etc etc.

    Anyway all off and the bottom hex bold that holds all bits in head has stripped to a circle. So I'm stuck.

    How on earth do I get out of this ? This had never been done since I bought bike 10 ish years ago. It was stripped anyway.

    As it's hex I can't see anyway of getting force on it ?

    Has anyone got out of this situation ?
    UKJULES
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    Owner of following bikes:
    1980 Suzuki GS550ET
    1977 Yamaha RD 250D
    1982 Kawasaki GPZ 750 R1
    1980 Suzuki GSX 250E

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    UKJULES
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    Owner of following bikes:
    1980 Suzuki GS550ET
    1977 Yamaha RD 250D
    1982 Kawasaki GPZ 750 R1
    1980 Suzuki GSX 250E

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      #3
      Drill it out. There will be enough of it sticking out (just drill the rounded head off) to remove with a set of Vice Grips. Much easier to fix than you may think.

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        #4
        Hammer in a Torx bit and you're good to go, if you fit a suitable socket / key / whittled brush pole down the inside bit from the top.
        ---- Dave

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          #5
          Why bother going through all of that. You are removing the lower leg, so when you drill off the Allen Cap, the lower leg will slide right off, then, since there's no tension on the bolt, it will come right off.

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            #6
            I can't see how drilling out the head will do it ? The inner thread would remain and the leg won't drop out ? Drilling is the final option where I'd destroy the leg to get the upper fork out . I'd then need a new leg.
            Also I only have a hand drill.

            Torx is a good idea. There is prob 7-8mm only of the recess to ram into. Will try today.
            Last edited by ukjules; 06-17-2023, 04:16 AM.
            UKJULES
            ---------------------------------
            Owner of following bikes:
            1980 Suzuki GS550ET
            1977 Yamaha RD 250D
            1982 Kawasaki GPZ 750 R1
            1980 Suzuki GSX 250E

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              #7
              My collection of tools for stripped bolts nuts etc.
              Have two options here. 1) torx 2) a large extractor that winds into the recess (usually by drilling a bolt out)

              I have 7mm of recess and a fork bolt that I bet was sealed in with thread lock stuff.

              Will report and pray this works.
              To drill out will be a machine shop
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              Last edited by ukjules; 06-17-2023, 04:15 AM.
              UKJULES
              ---------------------------------
              Owner of following bikes:
              1980 Suzuki GS550ET
              1977 Yamaha RD 250D
              1982 Kawasaki GPZ 750 R1
              1980 Suzuki GSX 250E

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                #8
                Update :
                'Torx banged in worked a treat ' !!!!!

                Method :
                - after cracking eve before , covered in oil , dribbling with rage
                - half bottle of wine in eve to reduce seething
                - awake after nights sleep , wd40, in vice , torx 45 (socket type) smashed into top of fork bolt, twisted out no probs.
                - happiness

                Now need a M8×1.25×27 Allen bolt.

                Cheers guys for assistance.
                UKJULES
                ---------------------------------
                Owner of following bikes:
                1980 Suzuki GS550ET
                1977 Yamaha RD 250D
                1982 Kawasaki GPZ 750 R1
                1980 Suzuki GSX 250E

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                  #9
                  Note : in my text I conguse hex with Allen bolt. An Allen bolt it is ..

                  Do you reckon this is man enough ?
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                  UKJULES
                  ---------------------------------
                  Owner of following bikes:
                  1980 Suzuki GS550ET
                  1977 Yamaha RD 250D
                  1982 Kawasaki GPZ 750 R1
                  1980 Suzuki GSX 250E

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                    #10
                    12.9 is a good strong bolt.

                    And the Torx trick is my go-to method for removing stripped head fasteners. They are a whole lot less likely to snap off compared to an EZ Out. I just did this with THREE stripped pilot air screws on a set of VM carbs.
                    Ed

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                      #11
                      Double-check that thread pitch. I don't know about your bike, but the larger models usually use an M10x1.0 thread.
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                        #12
                        You guys make this way to hard. You aren't going to reuse the bolt, so why bother going through all of that. This is a 3 minute job to remove with just a drill. You make a project out of it, and if you brake off that hardened piece in there, then you will have problems, unless you know how to make a home made EDM machine (which I do). bad advice, followed by bad advice. KISS, is my rule of thumb. (K.I.S.S. = Keep It Simple Stupid), not calling anyone stupid here at all, it is an idiom, used often.

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                          #13
                          Thanks for posting, guys. This is something I ran into a few years ago. The seals are not leaking, fortunately, I just wanted to change them while I was replacing the springs. Actually never even got the tubes to slide out of the air dampening thing so I just pulled the top cap and dropped new springs in from there.

                          It's good to know there are at least two options when the time comes.
                          If I can slide the upper tubes out that is...
                          Roger

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                            #14
                            I still can't see how drilling can possibly be thought easier and quicker than using a torx bit ?
                            it took me 10 seconds to rig safely fork in vice. Then put in 45 torx bit into bolt head. smack with hammer , add socket and turn. done in 20 seconds. torx bit not damaged. it unscrewed easily in one piece.
                            drilling you say would take 3 mins. I have made tea whilst you are still drilling.

                            to drill would take a hell of a lot longer. especially using my cheapo hand drill and bits. and could I be sure to drill the perfect depth with damage. even if I had a rig at the ready it would take longer.

                            drilling is the absolute last resort surely. it is for me. then you start to use easy out or as you say drill the head off.

                            it is absolutely the right advice to go minimal first.
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                            Last edited by ukjules; 06-17-2023, 10:57 AM.
                            UKJULES
                            ---------------------------------
                            Owner of following bikes:
                            1980 Suzuki GS550ET
                            1977 Yamaha RD 250D
                            1982 Kawasaki GPZ 750 R1
                            1980 Suzuki GSX 250E

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                              #15
                              I don't have cheapo drills. I have a machine shop in my barn. All manner of machines. I have taken broken taps out of Sikorsky Blackhawk Helicopter hubs that were broken when that last process was done. One broken tap would render a $500K hub worthless.

                              I know about removing taps, broken drills, and stripped heads out of objects. The drill will find it's center on what's left of the head of the bolt. With not too high rpm,s holding the piece between your legs, you drill till the head comes off the bolt, and lodges onto the drill. The bottom leg drops right off. I have done this countless times for people and various shops I've worked for. It takes minutes, you do it with your legs and hand drill. No set up involved.

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