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    GS100G clutch

    Greetings to all!
    with a beautiful season coming, I could not help but think of the little beast GS1000G,
    which however would need a new clutch, it has 20K km and slips when it gets serious!
    if you go calmly it still holds.
    Have any of you had any experiences with alternative spare parts,
    or do I replace with originals since they are still on the market? thanks​
    Alex
    Mazda MX5 NB FLI
    Yamaha RD 350 YPVS
    Suzuki GS 550E
    Suzuki GS 1000G​

    #2
    20G isnt crap on a clutch. Have you adjusted the cable to specs? AFTER inspection of the cable and proper adjustment it still slips then id replace the plates and friction discs. Many good aftermarket kits. Notably i use Caltric and have had excellent results. If you got a ton of spare cash and want to pay big prices then go OEM

    tutorials and service manuals here.

    Suzuki GS motorcycles maintenance and information (GS850GT)
    MY BIKES..1977 GS 750 B, 1978 GS 1000 C (X2)
    1978 GS 1000 E, 1979 GS 1000 S, 1973 Yamaha TX 750, 1977 Kawasaki KZ 650B1, 1975 Honda GL1000 Goldwing, 1983 CB 650SC Nighthawk, 1972 Honda CB 350K4, 74 Honda CB550

    NEVER SNEAK UP ON A SLEEPING DOG..NOT EVEN YOUR OWN.


    I would rather trust my bike to a "QUACK" that KNOWS how to fix it rather than a book worm that THINKS HE KNOWS how to fix it.

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      #3
      PARTSHARK is the place to access OEM parts fiches
      MY BIKES..1977 GS 750 B, 1978 GS 1000 C (X2)
      1978 GS 1000 E, 1979 GS 1000 S, 1973 Yamaha TX 750, 1977 Kawasaki KZ 650B1, 1975 Honda GL1000 Goldwing, 1983 CB 650SC Nighthawk, 1972 Honda CB 350K4, 74 Honda CB550

      NEVER SNEAK UP ON A SLEEPING DOG..NOT EVEN YOUR OWN.


      I would rather trust my bike to a "QUACK" that KNOWS how to fix it rather than a book worm that THINKS HE KNOWS how to fix it.

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        #4
        Originally posted by chuck hahn View Post
        20G isnt crap on a clutch.
        Remember that's not even 20k miles, but kilometers!

        What about springs?
        1982 GS1100E V&H "SS" exhaust, APE pods, 1150 oil cooler, 140 speedo, 99.3 rear wheel HP, black engine, '83 red

        2016 XL883L sigpic Two-tone blue and white. Almost 42 hp! Status: destroyed, now owned by the insurance company. The hole in my memory starts an hour before the accident and ends 24 hours after.

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          #5
          For me clutch slipping on a GS is rare. Have you checked the free play in the cable? Too tight will cause your problem. Also what oil do you use, more modern slicker oil can cause these to slip. Have you used any oil additives? they can, and "WILL" cause them to slip, been there done that. These GS's have wet clutches and usually wear very little, even with a lot of abuse. More common is a cracked fiber plate or a little section, chunk, of a fiber plate broke out and missing.... As for OEM or aftermarket I've used both and noticed no difference. But for sure, can't go wrong with OEM.... 12K mi, hard to imagine worn plates at that low mi.
          Last edited by rphillips; 03-17-2025, 12:26 PM.
          1983 GS1100E, 1983 CB1100F, 1991 GSX1100G, 1996 Kaw. ZL600 Eliminator, 1999 Bandit 1200S, 2005 Bandit 1200S, 2000 Kaw. ZRX 1100

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            #6
            YES oil must be additve friction modifier free The go to oil we use in our GSs is Shell Rotella T4 diesel oil. If your clutch has used oil with friction modifiers replace the friction plates and use the rotella from now on
            MY BIKES..1977 GS 750 B, 1978 GS 1000 C (X2)
            1978 GS 1000 E, 1979 GS 1000 S, 1973 Yamaha TX 750, 1977 Kawasaki KZ 650B1, 1975 Honda GL1000 Goldwing, 1983 CB 650SC Nighthawk, 1972 Honda CB 350K4, 74 Honda CB550

            NEVER SNEAK UP ON A SLEEPING DOG..NOT EVEN YOUR OWN.


            I would rather trust my bike to a "QUACK" that KNOWS how to fix it rather than a book worm that THINKS HE KNOWS how to fix it.

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              #7
              After I installed the "Slick 50" additive clutch slipped bad. Realizing what had happened, drained oil out and installed Castrol, my usual oil back then, and slipping got better. I rode it a couple of hundred mi., changed oil again and slipping got way better, another couple of hundred and another oil change and all was fine. Took a little longer but back then I didn't have the $$$ for a new clutch pack.
              1983 GS1100E, 1983 CB1100F, 1991 GSX1100G, 1996 Kaw. ZL600 Eliminator, 1999 Bandit 1200S, 2005 Bandit 1200S, 2000 Kaw. ZRX 1100

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                #8
                Replace the springs with a new set of OEM springs. I would not go off replacing friction discs until this is tried.
                Ed

                To measure is to know.

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                  #9
                  To me if theyre compromised thats the end. replace once and be done with it. nothing worse than having gto do it again.
                  MY BIKES..1977 GS 750 B, 1978 GS 1000 C (X2)
                  1978 GS 1000 E, 1979 GS 1000 S, 1973 Yamaha TX 750, 1977 Kawasaki KZ 650B1, 1975 Honda GL1000 Goldwing, 1983 CB 650SC Nighthawk, 1972 Honda CB 350K4, 74 Honda CB550

                  NEVER SNEAK UP ON A SLEEPING DOG..NOT EVEN YOUR OWN.


                  I would rather trust my bike to a "QUACK" that KNOWS how to fix it rather than a book worm that THINKS HE KNOWS how to fix it.

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                    #10
                    Originally posted by chuck hahn View Post
                    To me if theyre compromised thats the end. replace once and be done with it. nothing worse than having gto do it again.
                    How do you know the plates are compromised? Friction modifiers are rarely used in oils like 10W-40.
                    Ed

                    To measure is to know.

                    Mikuni O-ring Kits For Sale...https://www.thegsresources.com/_foru...ts#post1703182

                    Top Newbie Mistakes thread...http://www.thegsresources.com/_forum...d.php?t=171846

                    Carb rebuild tutorial...https://gsarchive.bwringer.com/mtsac...d_Tutorial.pdf

                    KZ750E Rebuild Thread...http://www.thegsresources.com/_forum...0-Resurrection

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                      #11
                      In the above posts i said IF oil with friction modifers had bben used.. Never read that there was and never assumed so. So if friction modified oil was used then the friction plates have absorbed the stuff and are contaminated...Plated are relatively cheap so just replace them and move on.
                      MY BIKES..1977 GS 750 B, 1978 GS 1000 C (X2)
                      1978 GS 1000 E, 1979 GS 1000 S, 1973 Yamaha TX 750, 1977 Kawasaki KZ 650B1, 1975 Honda GL1000 Goldwing, 1983 CB 650SC Nighthawk, 1972 Honda CB 350K4, 74 Honda CB550

                      NEVER SNEAK UP ON A SLEEPING DOG..NOT EVEN YOUR OWN.


                      I would rather trust my bike to a "QUACK" that KNOWS how to fix it rather than a book worm that THINKS HE KNOWS how to fix it.

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                        #12
                        Well, when Alexander comes back, he'll have a few options to pick from... Sure hope he gets it figured out and keeps us updated, could very well help others in the future.
                        Last edited by rphillips; 03-17-2025, 05:52 PM.
                        1983 GS1100E, 1983 CB1100F, 1991 GSX1100G, 1996 Kaw. ZL600 Eliminator, 1999 Bandit 1200S, 2005 Bandit 1200S, 2000 Kaw. ZRX 1100

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                          #13
                          Give him a chance. Initial post was 10:23 am EDST. It’s now 10:44 pm Italy time.
                          Last edited by Rich82GS750TZ; 03-17-2025, 07:26 PM.
                          Rich
                          1982 GS 750TZ
                          2015 Triumph Tiger 1200

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                            #14
                            Originally posted by Rich82GS750TZ View Post
                            Give him a chance. Initial post was 10:23 am EDST. It’s now 10:44 pm Italy time.
                            Italy? Get a Duck. Or a Guzzi. Or better yet, a V4 Aprilia. I hear low mileage ones can be had for $500 (Canadian).
                            1982 GS1100E V&H "SS" exhaust, APE pods, 1150 oil cooler, 140 speedo, 99.3 rear wheel HP, black engine, '83 red

                            2016 XL883L sigpic Two-tone blue and white. Almost 42 hp! Status: destroyed, now owned by the insurance company. The hole in my memory starts an hour before the accident and ends 24 hours after.

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                              #15
                              Deep in work!
                              Thanks so much for the many options.
                              In fact it got worse with the castrol synt oil change, it also oozes from the head,
                              I'll remove it immediately and put in an old mineral if I remember correctly a 10-40.
                              Then it's clear if it doesn't improve I'll change everything OEM.
                              Besides the friction discs, springs and gasket I shouldn't have any other needs.
                              I saw that the last disc has a stop with a steel wire, is it necessary to inspect this disc too or can I leave it in place?
                              The Police had Guzzis and I've always disliked them, then maybe they are nice bikes and especially tractors.
                              As a boy I had the pleasure of having a 1950 Falcone 500 Guzzi for a day, the civilian version in burgundy
                              just looking at it is a masterpiece. I've seen them restored even above 15K​
                              Alex
                              Mazda MX5 NB FLI
                              Yamaha RD 350 YPVS
                              Suzuki GS 550E
                              Suzuki GS 1000G​

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