GS100G clutch

[Nessism]

Yes, most I've seen that aren't OEM are pretty dang stiff. I've seen folks do it and it worked fine, just remove 2 of the 6 stiff springs, on opposite sides of the pressure plate. the remaining 4 should be relatively close to the 6 OEM. If you find something that was amiss, then get OEM.

I've heard of people mixing and matching OEM springs and aftermarket. I wouldn't run with missing springs entirely.

[rphillips]

That's all good, I'd probably not be comfortable with it either if I'd not seen it before. Alexander probably won't do that either, and I can't blame him. He seems like he'd rather spend the little extra to have things the way the Co. designed it... I's just putting in there things that I've seen work and saw no neg. from it.

[Alexander]

Yes, most I've seen that aren't OEM are pretty dang stiff. I've seen folks do it and it worked fine, just remove 2 of the 6 stiff springs, on opposite sides of the pressure plate. the remaining 4 should be relatively close to the 6 OEM. If you find something that was amiss, then get OEM.

yes I'll give them a few more test miles, then I'll throw them in the trash

[Alexander]

nice day and I take a ride of about 40 Mi to understand how the clutch is going.
The springs as I imagined make the lever too hard, almost painful if used with two fingers.
I will take the original ones, as always with OEM spare parts you can't go wrong.
When I pull the lever and as soon as the disc pack loosens I hear a slightly strong friction noise then it stops when it is completely open,
I don't understand if it has to do this because the discs are new and need to settle in, or maybe it is pulled too much almost to
the maximum and I have to loosen a bit, or the reinforced springs somehow influence it,
but these have their hours numbered anyway!

[Alexander]

I've heard of people mixing and matching OEM springs and aftermarket. I wouldn't run with missing springs entirely.

NO in fact I would never do it! and I don't think it's something I could recommend.
I always go with OEM spare parts if available, first because whoever designed them even if 50 years ago,
wasn't an idiot on the contrary, secondly they were specifically designed and optimized for this bike
and the materials available at the time.

[rphillips]

Well Alex, I like your way of thinking of OEM, but just say'in, even Suzuki engineers mess up. The Suzuki clutch hubs (baskets) were terribly under engineered, just a normal thing for rivets being pulled through backing plates and busted hubs, also had to be careful as many times the oil pump would go with the clutch hub... Another thing, you mentioned idiot, How well engineered, or thought out, was the batt. warning light? It showed if the water level in "one" of the 6 batt cells was low. So if other 5 were completely dry, as long as that one had water the light would not be indicating a problem. But I still like what your do'in, with OEM., it's hard to go wrong. Glad you've got things worked out.

[Alexander]

the reinforced springs lasted the time of one outing,
then removed too hard for me! returned with OEM springs
and the difference is really noticeable, now it's really perfect!

[Alexander]

I don't know if I should be worried or it was just a bad dream, when I disassembled the clutch, inside the rack shaft, where the thrust bearing is located, there was a small pin in place inside.
I am convinced that I saw it and put it back in its place, yet the second time I disassembled the clutch, there are no traces of this pin, perhaps it remained inside but with the screwdriver you can't feel anything moving. In the cross-section you can see the piece with the number 2 but I can't find any other reference online, not even in all the tutorials I have seen so far, should I be worried? Thank you

[rphillips]

I've wondered about that thing since the early "80's" and never saw nor heard what it did. I don't think it's a pin, but a tiny rubber plug. Possibly prevent a rattle between 2 metal parts??? I can't imagine it's too critical but as I don't know, I just don't know... Congrats with getting the springs sorted.

[Alexander]

I've wondered about that thing since the early "80's" and never saw nor heard what it did. I don't think it's a pin, but a tiny rubber plug. Possibly prevent a rattle between 2 metal parts??? I can't imagine it's too critical but as I don't know, I just don't know... Congrats with getting the springs sorted.

the description says saddle, it must be something that acts as a stop and prevents the rack pin from retracting and rubbing against the n10 nut,
I'm just trying to imagine, having only seen it once

[rphillips]

We must be looking at 2 different things. #2 on the fische goes in the back of the primary gear on the back of the clutch hub. It has 2 slots for the dogs on the oil pump gear to ride in, that plug, cushion, or pin goes in one, and only 1 of those slots.. I don't remember, or see on the fische, anything near the #10 nut except the lock washer..

[Alexander]

We must be looking at 2 different things. #2 on the fische goes in the back of the primary gear on the back of the clutch hub. It has 2 slots for the dogs on the oil pump gear to ride in, that plug, cushion, or pin goes in one, and only 1 of those slots.. I don't remember, or see on the fische, anything near the #10 nut except the lock washer..

convinced it should be inserted into the hole of pin 23 which in reality is not as illustrated but with a second pin, inside that hole
Thank you

[rphillips]

You mentioned it earlier, how often do you have these bad dreams??? ... At 71 yr. old my memory isn't as good as it yus'ta be, but for the life of me I can't remember any pin near the #10 nut nor the #23 rack release, nor see one on the parts fische... But absolutely positive (or almost positive) the #2 on the fische goes in the gear on the back of the clutch hub.... Remember I never guarantee anything...Just my opinion

[Alexander]

You mentioned it earlier, how often do you have these bad dreams??? ... At 71 yr. old my memory isn't as good as it yus'ta be, but for the life of me I can't remember any pin near the #10 nut nor the #23 rack release, nor see one on the parts fische... But absolutely positive (or almost positive) the #2 on the fische goes in the gear on the back of the clutch hub.... Remember I never guarantee anything...Just my opinion

Yeah yeah, of course, I should probably have a few sessions with a psychologist, haha.
Thanks for the clarification, I was hoping I didn’t have any little pieces lying around.

[rphillips]

I'd have felt better if somebody else had chimed in about this possible pin near the nut or rack release, just so we'd both be a little more sure if my memory was correct or incorrect. Probably been near 10 yrs since I've had one of those things apart.