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    I did it. Broke an exhaust flange bolt.

    And then, to top it off, I broke the e-z out off in the bolt. Now I need to get the head to a specialist to have it EDMed out, yes? Can the head be pulled while the engine is in the frame or does the entire engine need to be pulled?
    Last edited by 1980GS1000E; 12-27-2010, 12:47 AM.
    NO PIC THANKS TO FOTO BUCKET FOR BEING RIDICULOUS

    Current Rides: 1980 Suzuki GS1000ET, 2009 Yamaha FZ1, 1983 Honda CB1100F, 2006 H-D Fatboy
    Previous Rides: 1972 Yamaha DS7, 1977 Yamaha RD400D, '79 RD400F Daytona Special, '82 RD350LC, 1980 Suzuki GS1000E (sold that one), 1982 Honda CB900F, 1984 Kawasaki GPZ900R

    #2
    I'm not pro at this but I've done it on a prerunner I built... do you have a MIG welder?

    Fuse the exposed portion to a nut lined up over the bolt hole. Place a washer in between the nut and the component surface. You want to create a small weld from the easy out to the original bolt so you can extract is as a whole piece. Basically you would be using the metal of the easy out as a rod anyways and are extending the whole bolt with the new one.

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      #3
      Well, I do not have a welder, nor have I any experience at it. So I need to take it somewhere.
      NO PIC THANKS TO FOTO BUCKET FOR BEING RIDICULOUS

      Current Rides: 1980 Suzuki GS1000ET, 2009 Yamaha FZ1, 1983 Honda CB1100F, 2006 H-D Fatboy
      Previous Rides: 1972 Yamaha DS7, 1977 Yamaha RD400D, '79 RD400F Daytona Special, '82 RD350LC, 1980 Suzuki GS1000E (sold that one), 1982 Honda CB900F, 1984 Kawasaki GPZ900R

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        #4
        Sorry about your predicament, but yes, you can remove the head with the engine in the frame.

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          #5
          Check these guys out. One of their workers used to work for my grandparents shop downtown



          If a machine shop would do it I'd recommend JD Machine Shop. Both these places are off prospect and may be able to help since they're pretty close to you.

          Hell even Eliminator Motorsports could help, I can call and ex gf's brother to see how much they would charge if they could help you if you want, that is if he still works there...

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            #6
            Sucks big time.

            A goodly number of people have experienced this exact same thing. We always try to tell the people to NEVER use easyouts unless they are highly experienced with them but most of the time it's too late. Sorry.
            Ed

            To measure is to know.

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              #7
              Yeah... Hell, they worked just fine on my patio table. It was my own fault, I know I shouldn't have tried it, but, what the heck. @Ranger, I would appreciate that, thanks.
              NO PIC THANKS TO FOTO BUCKET FOR BEING RIDICULOUS

              Current Rides: 1980 Suzuki GS1000ET, 2009 Yamaha FZ1, 1983 Honda CB1100F, 2006 H-D Fatboy
              Previous Rides: 1972 Yamaha DS7, 1977 Yamaha RD400D, '79 RD400F Daytona Special, '82 RD350LC, 1980 Suzuki GS1000E (sold that one), 1982 Honda CB900F, 1984 Kawasaki GPZ900R

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                #8
                Not to rub salt, but PB Blaster, patients, and some heat and the bolts will come out...too much rush, and too much force then bad things happen...

                I had a siezed exhaust allen bolt on my GSXR 's head took a month of PB, and heat but it eventually cam out. It's really challenging to get the fluid up into the corroded threads simply because of gravity..

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                  #9
                  You can get the head out, to get it to a shop, but realize once you do that your are in at least the cost of a base and head gasket to get it put back in.

                  Good luck, you are now experiencing what every GS member has or will experience at least once.

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                    #10
                    It's a bit late, but a set of drills in increments of 1/64" is the key to success. Easy outs are an oxymoron. I've got one in my spare engine I plan to tackle this winter, just as soon as I get a decent drill press.
                    1981 GS650G , all the bike you need
                    1980 GS1000G Power corrupts, and absolute power corrupts absolutely

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                      #11
                      I do have a drill press.. Any pointers? And will I have to change the base gasket if I am only removing the head? I haven't before on other bikes I have owned. As long as the cylinder block is not disturbed, the base gasket has the same sealing integrity after the head is torqued.
                      NO PIC THANKS TO FOTO BUCKET FOR BEING RIDICULOUS

                      Current Rides: 1980 Suzuki GS1000ET, 2009 Yamaha FZ1, 1983 Honda CB1100F, 2006 H-D Fatboy
                      Previous Rides: 1972 Yamaha DS7, 1977 Yamaha RD400D, '79 RD400F Daytona Special, '82 RD350LC, 1980 Suzuki GS1000E (sold that one), 1982 Honda CB900F, 1984 Kawasaki GPZ900R

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                        #12
                        It's a big gamble to not replace the base gasket. The gaskets get brittle with age/heat, plus the O-ring is also crushed down. I'd replace all the seals, including the valve stem seals while the engine is apart.
                        Ed

                        To measure is to know.

                        Mikuni O-ring Kits For Sale...https://www.thegsresources.com/_foru...ts#post1703182

                        Top Newbie Mistakes thread...http://www.thegsresources.com/_forum...d.php?t=171846

                        Carb rebuild tutorial...https://gsarchive.bwringer.com/mtsac...d_Tutorial.pdf

                        KZ750E Rebuild Thread...http://www.thegsresources.com/_forum...0-Resurrection

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                          #13
                          I second that. IF you get it all together and a week later it starts to leak you are going to be feeling pretty bad.

                          I would take my time with that bolt. Towards the end of the operation you might be able to pick out the threads with a dental pick.

                          I got a set of studs and nuts from NAPA for 13 dollars that work great and look fantastic. Forget bolts. Bolts was not a great idea for this.
                          1981 GS650G , all the bike you need
                          1980 GS1000G Power corrupts, and absolute power corrupts absolutely

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                            #14
                            I agree about changing out for studs. That was my original intent. Maybe it makes more sense to take the engine out of the bike and and take the whole thing to the shop. While I agree about doing the job the right way and changing valve seals and such, the engine shows no leaks or smoke now and only has this busted bolt to deal with. Plus, it is a pita to put the pistons back in and I run the risk of crap dropping into the crankcase.
                            NO PIC THANKS TO FOTO BUCKET FOR BEING RIDICULOUS

                            Current Rides: 1980 Suzuki GS1000ET, 2009 Yamaha FZ1, 1983 Honda CB1100F, 2006 H-D Fatboy
                            Previous Rides: 1972 Yamaha DS7, 1977 Yamaha RD400D, '79 RD400F Daytona Special, '82 RD350LC, 1980 Suzuki GS1000E (sold that one), 1982 Honda CB900F, 1984 Kawasaki GPZ900R

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                              #15
                              If you need a spare hand let me know.

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