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    Ok I replaced the battery and i have the same problems which i had talked about in my previous thread for the starter solenoid under general maintenance. I only have problems with it starting when its cold out, during the day it starts like a champ push the button and the bikes ready to roll. but in the morning or evening when its a little cold out its not wanting to cooperate. Do i need to change my spark plugs? i need a little guidance please

    #2
    going from the descriptions in your other thread. sounds to me like a bad ground Cliffs website has loads of info from a lot of valued and reputable members in fact there is a little section on slow cranking here


    http://members.dslextreme.com/users/storagecliff/images/electrical_odd-n-ends.html#A10

    Clean the entire wiring harness and all those little switches and make sure none of your connectors look warped if they do just replace them or do them individually and while your at it might as well dab a bit of solder before you put a new connector on heres a little video on that

    Free version: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IpkkfK937mU (youtube won't let me change this back to free, that video is the same)Recommended Products:chipqui...


    and lastly it would be great if you could put what bikes you have/working on as a signature so we can see what bike your talking about

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      #3
      3 things to consider:

      1. Battery voltage - static and when the starter button is pushed
      2. Valves adjusted?
      3. Quality of spark - pull one out, connect it up and start the bike - red, yellow, blue, white?
      This is best tested in the dark
      1978 GS 1000 (since new)
      1979 GS 1000 (The Fridge, superbike replica project)
      1978 GS 1000 (parts)
      1981 GS 850 (anyone want a project?)
      1981 GPZ 550 (backroad screamer)
      1970 450 Mk IIID (THUMP!)
      2007 DRz 400S
      1999 ATK 490ES
      1994 DR 350SES

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        #4
        Slow cranking isnt an issue at all, it just wont start it turns over like it does when its warm but it wont run. its pretty irritating if asked a couple guys i work with they told me it could be the fact that its carbuerated it will give me some issues when its cold. I will clean the wiring harness and check the spark plugs and see what happens

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          #5
          well lets look at spark.

          battery charged?
          is the fuse good?
          whats the voltage at the button & kill switch?
          whats the coil resistance, secondary and primary?
          how are your plugs?
          hows your signal gen/points?
          hows your condenser/igniter?

          those questions should cover your ignition system

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            #6
            Originally posted by Wilee7 View Post
            Ok I replaced the battery and i have the same problems which i had talked about in my previous thread for the starter solenoid under general maintenance. I only have problems with it starting when its cold out, during the day it starts like a champ push the button and the bikes ready to roll. but in the morning or evening when its a little cold out its not wanting to cooperate. Do i need to change my spark plugs? i need a little guidance please
            Make sure the "choke" system is fully operating. My bike needs full "choke" when cold or it will just crank and crank.Investigate the cable operation at carbs.
            1981 gs650L

            "We are all born ignorant, but you have to work hard to stay stupid" Ben Franklin

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              #7
              Hi,

              What bike are we talking about? (Hint: Put it in your sig file.)

              Have you adjusted the valves and cleaned the carbs?

              What is the voltage at the coils?



              Thank you for your indulgence,


              BassCliff

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                #8
                My bike is an 82 GS550L I cleaned the carbs almost a year ago KI checked the voltage at the battery and the solenoid and they were both between 15.54-12.30 when I went to start it. I checked the choke and it was stuck after I freed it and got it to start it would only run with the choke full open when I would close the choke while riding it wanted to shut down unless I kept the engine rev'd. so after I go it home I let it sit for an hour and it wouldnt start at all it would crank but no start ill check the coil and see what the voltage is there I also checked the spark plugs and they all spark white.

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                  #9
                  And what about the valves? I trust you know the engine will burn up if the valves are not adjusted.
                  Ed

                  To measure is to know.

                  Mikuni O-ring Kits For Sale...https://www.thegsresources.com/_foru...ts#post1703182

                  Top Newbie Mistakes thread...http://www.thegsresources.com/_forum...d.php?t=171846

                  Carb rebuild tutorial...https://gsarchive.bwringer.com/mtsac...d_Tutorial.pdf

                  KZ750E Rebuild Thread...http://www.thegsresources.com/_forum...0-Resurrection

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                    #10
                    Originally posted by Wilee7 View Post
                    I cleaned the carbs almost a year ago... I checked the choke and it was stuck
                    you may have to re dip your carbs gas goes bad in about 3 months, that is with out some sort of treatment like Star Tron.

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                      #11
                      no i haven't had the valves adjusted, is it difficult? Also how do i check the coils?

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                        #12
                        Have you read the information on Basscliff's site yet? He gives pretty good instructions on how to do the valve adjustment. Plus, send an email to Steve (username and real name) for his spreadsheet.
                        Cowboy Up or Quit. - Run Free Lou and Rest in Peace

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                        1981 GS550L - My Eldest Daughter's - Now Sold
                        2007 GSF1250SA Bandit - My touring bike

                        Sit tall in the saddle Hold your head up high
                        Keep your eyes fixed where the trail meets the sky and live like you ain't afraid to die
                        and don't be scared, just enjoy your ride - Chris Ledoux, "The Ride"

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                          #13
                          Originally posted by Wilee7 View Post
                          no i haven't had the valves adjusted, is it difficult? Also how do i check the coils?
                          Adjusting the valves is easy. Please don't neglect critical maintenance like this. It's just as important as changing the oil, if not more.
                          Ed

                          To measure is to know.

                          Mikuni O-ring Kits For Sale...https://www.thegsresources.com/_foru...ts#post1703182

                          Top Newbie Mistakes thread...http://www.thegsresources.com/_forum...d.php?t=171846

                          Carb rebuild tutorial...https://gsarchive.bwringer.com/mtsac...d_Tutorial.pdf

                          KZ750E Rebuild Thread...http://www.thegsresources.com/_forum...0-Resurrection

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                            #14
                            who is Steve? and how do i add a signature to my posts?

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                              #15
                              Originally posted by Wilee7 View Post
                              who is Steve? and how do i add a signature to my posts?
                              Steve is Steve. If you type "steve" in the search function you will find him.

                              To add info to your profile, click on the Private Messages link in the upper right of the screen, that will take you into your profile where you can add all kinds of good information.
                              Ed

                              To measure is to know.

                              Mikuni O-ring Kits For Sale...https://www.thegsresources.com/_foru...ts#post1703182

                              Top Newbie Mistakes thread...http://www.thegsresources.com/_forum...d.php?t=171846

                              Carb rebuild tutorial...https://gsarchive.bwringer.com/mtsac...d_Tutorial.pdf

                              KZ750E Rebuild Thread...http://www.thegsresources.com/_forum...0-Resurrection

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