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    #31
    Originally posted by hampshirehog View Post
    Adrian, I've got some 100mm M8 SS Allen bolts you could try.....

    I rescued them from one of those climbing walls - the towers with the nobbly bits of plastic on the side so you can pretend to climb Mt Everest. You can feel in your hand how light and rubbish they are and can snap them with a pair of mole grips. They're not stamped so I have no idea what grade they are. They haven't gone rusty though!
    my whole bike is held together with stainless bolts, engine, suspension, brakes, you name it, its stainless.
    not one failure yet.
    3 x engine cross bars (not stud bar but proper bars with threaded ends)
    6 x engine mounting bolts
    4 x caliper mounting bolts on a home made bracket (front)
    all S/S mounts on rear caliper
    S/S disc bolts front and rear
    S/S exhaust bolts, headers and rear mount
    stainless front wheel axle, soon to become titanium

    plus all ancillaries apart from the obvious coloured ally cover bolts
    not one failure,crack or blemish on any bolt
    all from INOX FASTENERS
    Last edited by Agemax; 11-04-2011, 03:40 PM.
    1978 GS1085.

    Just remember, an opinion without 3.14 is just an onion!

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      #32
      Originally posted by Agemax View Post
      my whole bike is held together with stainless bolts, engine, suspension, brakes, you name it, its stainless.
      not one failure yet.
      3 x engine cross bars (not stud bar but proper bars with threaded ends)
      6 x engine mounting bolts
      4 x caliper mounting bolts on a home made bracket (front)
      all S/S mounts on rear caliper
      S/S disc bolts front and rear
      S/S exhaust bolts, headers and rear mount
      stainless front wheel axle, soon to become titanium
      Pretty much the same as my 1000 but I haven't swapped the axles over as they have got good zinc on them.The 550 and 650 are the same and I might do the 750 this winter (though I have to say I feel it has a certain charm wearing the original nuts and bolts - matches the rest of the patina).

      I did do that little CZ in the top LH corner but took them all out to give it more authenticity.

      Titanium front axle? You rob a bank or something?
      79 GS1000S
      79 GS1000S (another one)
      80 GSX750
      80 GS550
      80 CB650 cafe racer
      75 PC50 - the one with OHV and pedals...
      75 TS100 - being ridden (suicidally) by my father

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        #33
        Originally posted by hampshirehog View Post
        Pretty much the same as my 1000 but I haven't swapped the axles over as they have got good zinc on them.The 550 and 650 are the same and I might do the 750 this winter (though I have to say I feel it has a certain charm wearing the original nuts and bolts - matches the rest of the patina).

        I did do that little CZ in the top LH corner but took them all out to give it more authenticity.

        Titanium front axle? You rob a bank or something?
        friend of a friend
        just waiting for the gurus to slate titanium now!!!!
        Last edited by Agemax; 11-04-2011, 05:05 PM.
        1978 GS1085.

        Just remember, an opinion without 3.14 is just an onion!

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          #34
          Originally posted by Agemax View Post
          my whole bike is held together with stainless bolts, engine, suspension, brakes, you name it, its stainless.
          not one failure yet.
          3 x engine cross bars (not stud bar but proper bars with threaded ends)
          6 x engine mounting bolts
          4 x caliper mounting bolts on a home made bracket (front)
          all S/S mounts on rear caliper
          S/S disc bolts front and rear
          S/S exhaust bolts, headers and rear mount
          stainless front wheel axle, soon to become titanium

          plus all ancillaries apart from the obvious coloured ally cover bolts
          not one failure,crack or blemish on any bolt
          all from INOX FASTENERS
          my Gs1085S 95 percent of nuts bolts & washes are stainless havent had any problems yet?..

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            #35
            Originally posted by Agemax View Post
            just waiting for the gurus to slate titanium now!!!!
            Snaps too easy....

            Didn't Jeff Smith snap his titanium frame (BSA scrambler) back in the 60s? Titanium got a slating - I vaguely remember something about it (I was just a kid then). I also vaguely remember the frame cost as much as a street of houses or something similarly riduculous. Part of why BSA went bust.

            Edit: Just Googled it. He won the Grandstand Trophy (remember that) in '68. B&W telly, every Saturday afternoon. Fantastic stuff, sat there with my dad. Each frame cost the equivalent of $400,000 in today's money apparently and the whole campaign $40 million!

            Last edited by hampshirehog; 11-04-2011, 05:32 PM.
            79 GS1000S
            79 GS1000S (another one)
            80 GSX750
            80 GS550
            80 CB650 cafe racer
            75 PC50 - the one with OHV and pedals...
            75 TS100 - being ridden (suicidally) by my father

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              #36
              Originally posted by hampshirehog View Post
              Snaps too easy....

              Didn't Jeff Smith snap his titanium frame (BSA scrambler) back in the 60s? Titanium got a slating - I vaguely remember something about it (I was just a kid then). I also vaguely remember the frame cost as much as a street of houses or something similarly riduculous. Part of why BSA went bust.

              Edit: Just Googled it. He won the Grandstand Trophy (remember that) in '68. B&W telly, every Saturday afternoon. Fantastic stuff, sat there with my dad. Each frame cost the equivalent of $400,000 in today's money apparently and the whole campaign $40 million!

              http://www.motorcycle-usa.com/290/16...-Titanium.aspx
              that wa back in the 60's wally, i am sure it has progressed in its structure by now, same as aluminium and carbon fibre has
              1978 GS1085.

              Just remember, an opinion without 3.14 is just an onion!

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                #37
                Originally posted by Agemax View Post
                that wa back in the 60's wally, i am sure it has progressed in its structure by now, same as aluminium and carbon fibre has
                It was a design difficulites with the frame rather than the material but the press slated the use of titanium by BSA because it was a way to have a dig at them... 'all that money and the frame snapped' and so on. All cutting edge stuff at the time. They had to weld it in a chamber filled with inert gas.

                I read the article through and it says Jeff struggled on the Ti bike and actually did better on a steel framed version. Too flexible then too stiff and snapping, all trial and error - no computer testing then.
                79 GS1000S
                79 GS1000S (another one)
                80 GSX750
                80 GS550
                80 CB650 cafe racer
                75 PC50 - the one with OHV and pedals...
                75 TS100 - being ridden (suicidally) by my father

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                  #38
                  Originally posted by hampshirehog View Post
                  It was a design difficulites with the frame rather than the material but the press slated the use of titanium by BSA because it was a way to have a dig at them... 'all that money and the frame snapped' and so on. All cutting edge stuff at the time. They had to weld it in a chamber filled with inert gas.

                  I read the article through and it says Jeff struggled on the Ti bike and actually did better on a steel framed version. Too flexible then too stiff and snapping, all trial and error - no computer testing then.
                  sounds like rossi testing the carbon frame vs the ali frame, modern tchno but they still cant get it right, too rigid,to flexi whatever. just think how much grief the engineers get in those workshops?
                  by the way, they use titanium spindles and spacers
                  1978 GS1085.

                  Just remember, an opinion without 3.14 is just an onion!

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                    #39
                    The Modulus of Elasticity for Ti is only 1/2 that of steel, so that Ti front axle is twice as flexible as the original part.

                    Modern fork designs are stiffer than our old GS parts, making the system more flexible is going backwards.
                    Last edited by Nessism; 11-05-2011, 08:57 AM.
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                      #40


                      New stainless allens from Z1. Arrived just on time for me to button it up after re doing my valve adjust and painting the cover... Ooooo, shiney.

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