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    Help! My clutch is nackard!

    Hi ... Can anyone help me out? I replaced the clutch plates on my 1989 GSX750ES today - seemed easy enough i drained the oil, took off the side cover, swapped the plates and put it back together again with a new filter and fresh oil. Put my lid on, jumped on the old girl for a spin and the clutch lever had gone completely slack. It springs back but has hardly any resistance and i certainly can's select any gears. I know it needs readjusting after fitting new plates but it feels as though it isn't actually engaging the clutch. I can see from the lower adjuster that the cable hasn't snapped, so where have I gone wrong? Any advice greatly appreciated!

    #2
    Did you adjust the cable yet?

    Also, did you replace the clutch springs? I doubt this is the problem but have to ask?
    Ed

    To measure is to know.

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      #3
      Yes and yes

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        #4
        You haven't got any bits left over - like the push piece or bearing etc? 2 part push rod in them as well isn't it?
        79 GS1000S
        79 GS1000S (another one)
        80 GSX750
        80 GS550
        80 CB650 cafe racer
        75 PC50 - the one with OHV and pedals...
        75 TS100 - being ridden (suicidally) by my father

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          #5
          Clutch lever slack means you need to tighten/adjust the cable. I'd try removing all the slack and then go from there.
          Ed

          To measure is to know.

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            #6
            I didn't have any bits left over no - i literally just removed the old plates and slotted the new ones in. I've adjusted the clutch cable all the way with no effect. Think i'll have to take the cover off and have another look at it... thanks for your help guys

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              #7
              Ok so i drained the oil and had took the side cover off to have a look if anything was out of place. Everything looks like the photographs in the Haynes. When i pull the clutch lever, the headed push piece protrudes slightly out of the cover plate and then returns on a very weak spring action. Is this what is supposed to happen?

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                #8
                I'm assuming the headed push piece isn't pushing far enough out into the cover plate to move it against the springs. Would this be because the cable is too slack and if it's already at full adjustment what then?

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                  #9
                  Do you have a clutch lever or a push rod?
                  1983 GS 1100E w/ 1230 kit, .340 lift Web Cams, Ape heavy duty valve springs, 83 1100 head with 1.5mm oversized SS intake valves, 1150 crank, Vance and Hines 1150 SuperHub, Star Racing high volume oil pump gears, 36mm carebs Dynojet stage 3 jet kit, Posplayr's SSPB, Progressive rear shocks and fork springs, Dyna 2000, Dynatek green coils and Vance & Hines 4-1 exhaust.
                  1985 GS1150ES stock with 85 Red E bodywork.

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                    #10
                    The clutch pushrod adjustment is on the LH side of the engine. You loosen the lock nut, turn in the adjuster until the cable slack is removed, then reset the lock nut. Before adjusting the helix it's best to turn in the cable adjusters in all the way. All this info is in the service manual. I don't know if this is the problem but it's the obvious place to start.

                    If for some reason you don't have a service manual for your bike, you can download one for free here...http://members.dslextreme.com/users/bikecliff/
                    Last edited by Nessism; 06-16-2012, 04:12 PM.
                    Ed

                    To measure is to know.

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                      #11
                      Originally posted by Nessism View Post
                      The clutch pushrod adjustment is on the LH side of the engine.
                      Really? On an '89 they went back to that old system?
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                        #12
                        Originally posted by tkent02 View Post
                        Really? On an '89 they went back to that old system?

                        I assume the engine is the same as the 3rd generation 750. If not, no clue.
                        Ed

                        To measure is to know.

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                          #13
                          Yeah that's right - it's on the left hand side of the engine. Do i screw it into the case? I tried that and it made no difference... chef1366 i'm not sure what you mean - i think it's a push rod.

                          I'm trying to work this out logically. If the previous plates were worn, the push piece didn't need to push as far out against the cover plate to disengage the clutch plates right? So now i need to readjust it so that it moves further out - does that mean tightening the cable? I understand how the actual clutch works, i just can't get my head around how the lever pushes the rod to disengage the clutch... Thanks for your patience

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                            #14
                            It's a worm drive that twists and pushes the push rod(s). You adjust it by undoing the lock nut and winding the screw in if the clutch isn't disengaging, out of it's slipping.

                            At the business end you should have the push piece, the bearing and then a washer before the pressure plate.
                            79 GS1000S
                            79 GS1000S (another one)
                            80 GSX750
                            80 GS550
                            80 CB650 cafe racer
                            75 PC50 - the one with OHV and pedals...
                            75 TS100 - being ridden (suicidally) by my father

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                              #15
                              Ok ill try adjusting again tomorrow morning by screwing it in...

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