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    I lost two quarts of oil in 30 seconds

    My trusty 1980 GS400 has let me down for the first time ever tonight.

    I got out of work, cranked her up and it was idling on the kickstand while I was puting my gear on.

    I sat on the bike and as I was backing out I saw oil on the ground pouring out at the speed of an oil bottle being emptied.

    I shut the bike down right away but the leak continued.

    In a matter of 30 seconds what looks like two quarts of oil leaked right out of the bike. I had to go talk to the security guy because there was so much oil that it was dangerous for the passerbys. So we laid some newspapers over the puddle Big Daddy style.

    It seems to be coming from the sprocket area.

    Now last month I ordered all new seals for this bike because I was going to replace them this winter. The seals are at my folks home in the states. I was gonne get them to bring them to me next time they come visit but now I'll have them ship me the parts.

    However the leak was so sudden and so massive that I wonder if it's not something much worse than a leaky seal.

    Can a bad seal make a bike empty its guts in 30 seconds? The leak was so bad I thought someone had removed my drain plug.

    I will have to get the bike to my place sometime this week to look into this.

    #2
    sounds like one of the seals has blown out completely. pop the cover off, it will soon become obvious
    1978 GS1085.

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      #3
      First thing check the sump plug, then the oil filter cover.

      Next I'd be looking at the clutch pushrod oil seal behind the sprocket cover and the oil seal around the gear shifting shaft under the same cover.

      Off the top of my head those would be the most likely I would think...
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        #4
        Countershaft seal might have fallen out.
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          #5
          Bet you a beer its the clutch pushrod seal. There is oil pressure behind the seal so when it fails, it can create a big time oil leak.
          Ed

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            #6
            Originally posted by Nessism View Post
            Bet you a beer its the clutch pushrod seal. There is oil pressure behind the seal so when it fails, it can create a big time oil leak.
            Agreed I had a 750 do that
            1984 GS1100GK newest addition to the heard
            80 GS 1000gt- most favorite ride love this bike
            1978 GS1000E- Known as "RoadKill" , Finished :D
            83 gs750ed- first new purchase
            85 EX500- vintage track weapon
            1958Ducati 98 Tourismo
            “Remember When in doubt use full throttle, It may not improve the situation ,but it will end the suspense ,
            If it isn't going to make it faster or safer it isn't worth doing

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              #7
              Well today I brought my set of phillips sockets to work along with a few tools to see if I could not fix it there and save me a tow.

              Turns out the PO has already done a very good job of stripping the head of a few of the bolts so I will have to bring it home to work some magic with a hammer-screw remover and a cut off wheel and flathead.

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                #8
                Do yourself a favor and replace every phillips head with allen head SS fasteners. I've always drilled out those crappy stripped screw heads. Just use a bit large enough that it covers the head and drill it till it's gone and stop. Once the case is off, take a vise grip and unscrew it the rest of the way out.
                Last edited by mrbill5491; 09-27-2012, 10:02 AM.
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                Stuff I've done to my bike:dancing: 1100E front end with new Sonic springs, 1100E swing arm conversion with new Progressive shocks installed, 530 sprockets/chain conversion, new SS brake lines, new brake pads. New SS fasteners through out. Rebuilt carbs, new EBC clutch springs and horn installed. New paint. Motor runs strong.

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                  #9
                  Originally posted by mrbill5491 View Post
                  Do yourself a favor and replace every phillips head with allen head SS fasteners. I've always drilled out those crappy stripped screw heads. Just use a bit large enough that it covers the head and drill it till it's gone and stop. Once the case is off, take a vise grip and unscrew it the rest of the way out.
                  Are kits available to save hunting down individual bolts?

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                    #10
                    Originally posted by tkent02 View Post
                    Countershaft seal might have fallen out.
                    I have seen this. It pours out of the motor.
                    1983 GS 1100E w/ 1230 kit, .340 lift Web Cams, Ape heavy duty valve springs, 83 1100 head with 1.5mm oversized SS intake valves, 1150 crank, Vance and Hines 1150 SuperHub, Star Racing high volume oil pump gears, 36mm carebs Dynojet stage 3 jet kit, Posplayr's SSPB, Progressive rear shocks and fork springs, Dyna 2000, Dynatek green coils and Vance & Hines 4-1 exhaust.
                    1985 GS1150ES stock with 85 Red E bodywork.

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                      #11
                      Originally posted by jfman View Post
                      Are kits available to save hunting down individual bolts?
                      For the engine, yes. Check ebay. For the rest.standard sizes are used but there will be a few one offs.
                      1981 GS650G , all the bike you need
                      1980 GS1000G Power corrupts, and absolute power corrupts absolutely

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                        #12
                        Originally posted by jfman View Post
                        Are kits available to save hunting down individual bolts?
                        Z1 Enterprises carries the kits....

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                          #13
                          Originally posted by GateKeeper View Post
                          Z1 Enterprises carries the kits....
                          +1, that's where I got mine and it made it so much easier to rebuild with those.
                          1982 GS450E - The Wee Beastie
                          1984 GSX750S Katana 7/11 - Kit Kat - BOTM May 2020

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                            #14
                            I got my kit from Z1 and it contained most of the bolts I needed. and a fwe extras.

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                              #15
                              I stole the 8mm bolts from my 1986 gs400 parts bike.

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