Blew a gasket..Literally! lol

[koolaid_kid]

If it works for you Chuck more power to you. Like I said, they do make several kinds. I use RTV on the half moons, it dries and is easy to peel off and remove. And it is a lot cheaper than the 3M bond. I liked the non-drying stuff on the GPz cases because I had to crack those cases several times before I got it right.

[chuck hahn]

Dude...3 bond works everytime...theres an issue of excessive pressure getting in the upper end and he needs to find that. Otherwise theres no sense in doing X, X, X or anythingbelse till that is discovered.

[koolaid_kid]

I am not disagreeing with you Chuck. I am saying that it is not a requirement to use 3Bond; most use RTV which is easier to find and cheaper.
And if you read my posts we agree there is excess pressure, but he cannot test without having the plugs in there. And I suggest that having a slippery sealant makes it easier for them to slip out. It's not rocket science.
It is entirely possible that the screens are plugged up, those should be looked at next. But if the screens are not plugged yet there is that much blowby, would you not suspect rings? It is a process of elimination, Chuck.

[Nessism]

I use Threebond 1194. Same as used on the crankcase. RTV should work as well.

Something fishy here. Too much crankcase pressure maybe.

As for technique, I use brake cleaner on a rag to wipe down both the cylinder head and the half moon pieces. Coat the curved area and set the moon in place, followed by installing the valve cover while the sealer is still wet. Allow a few hours to dry before attempting to start the engine.

[koolaid_kid]

This is the first time I have heard of people using 1194, but I learn something new every day.
I think we all agree, then, that there is too much backpressure. The question before us, then, is where is it coming from? Perhaps on a motorcycle there are multiple possible sources?

[slyone]

Hey great guys, Thanks! I'll check the valves for full closure tonight. The screens are clean and free as is the rubber hose to "stock" air box, which I plan on cleaning out and cleaning/oiling up the air filter as well. Remember, this all happened since last weekend valve adj/carb overhaul so it must be the way I did things. I think(or should I say hope, lol) I'll be golden after this 2nd round..indeed. I got the bike 2 weeks ago or so and the first thing I did was to seek out and join an active and knowledgeable forum, so I did get that part right 1st time LOL!

[slyone]

Seems to me that the excessive pressure is coming from the valves not seating fully and your basically blowing the top- end full of compression. I know you adjusted the valves...but thay may be worth a second look. Roll each lobe around so it is pointing directly AWAY from the bucket and then see if the bucket is moving around freely by trying to move it with your finger.

Chuck, I just did this and found different readings then before right after adj. Here's what I got lobes 180 from stems,
#1 intake- 0.04mm exhaust- 0.10mm
#2 intake- 0.08mm exhaust- 0.08mm
#3 intake- 0.04mm exhaust- 0.08mm
#4 intake- 0.10mm exhaust- 0.10mm
last weekend I loosened 1 & 4 intake and 4 exhaust (too tight) had 275 I put in 270 for a reading of 0.05mm? think I should switch them back and tighten #1 exhaust

[Nessism]

.10mm is fine.

If you adjusted the valves with the lobes 180* from the valve, you did it wrong.

Look in the factory Suzuki service manual for the proper cam position method.

[slyone]

.10mm is fine.

If you adjusted the valves with the lobes 180* from the valve, you did it wrong.

Look in the factory Suzuki service manual for the proper cam position method.

Last time when I had approx. 0.05 thru out, I did follow procedures Steve had posted here at GS, I might have referenced my Clymers too.

[koolaid_kid]

Not Clymers. Suzuki Service Manual.
If you have a parakeet, line his cage with the Clymers.

[slyone]

Not Clymers. Suzuki Service Manual.
If you have a parakeet, line his cage with the Clymers.

lol! but it came with the bike...

[barnbiketom]

the OP mentioned a "$50" cam cover gasket???##$$@#??t

OEM is only $30.... so it would seem he used a non oem one, and possibly the breather gasket too, is non oem.


maybe it (THEY?) are wrong and blocking something off...??

[barnbiketom]

also if you look at the picture, the gasket doesn't seem right to me either..

[slyone]

the OP mentioned a "$50" cam cover gasket???##$$@#??t

OEM is only $30.... so it would seem he used a non oem one, and possibly the breather gasket too, is non oem.


maybe it (THEY?) are wrong and blocking something off...??

naw there oem all the way, just a huge markup locally...in fact, back in the early 70's this dealership was owned/named Hart Taylor but we all called it Heart Failure due to the markup pricing! lol...

[slyone]

OK guys, don't crucify me for withholding info. but I thought it served no purpose other than a good razzing and embarrassment on me but when I got it put back together last Sunday and fired it up, I could tell it was laboring to run...and it backfired 2 times that was so freakin loud and crisp I nearly sh#t my pants! Checked front pipes-#3 & #4 cold...I had plug wires crossed...what a dummy! How could I do something so stupid! I thought that shorter boot to the inside seemed odd? Upon testdrive it ran well so no harm/no foul. I then left it idling for a while and messed around with idle adjustments since it was fully warmed up and then's when I noticed the oil all of a sudden peeing on the ground! So anyways, those misfires may have contributed to pushin those plugs out since they seemed OK on the other side at #1 7 #2 cylinder. and I was gonna keep that secret to myself