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        #33
        Originally posted by blowerbike View Post
        why are we talking about brakes?
        what did i miss?
        We are generally discussing the fact that his rear wheel locked up.

        We then progressed to some of the common causes of rear wheel lock-up.

        One of the reasons could be lack of lubrication in the driveline, specifically the secondary drive (the front sprocket area on a chain-drive bike).

        Another reason (which could happen on any bike) is that the compensation port in the master cylinder is blocked, not allowing fluid transfer.

        As I mentioned in post #16, if that port is not open, the only place for expanding fluid to go is behind the pistons, pushing on the pads, locking up the rear wheel.

        Did you follow this time?

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          #34
          yes but i would have thought he would have popped off the caliper to see if the wheel would then turn.

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            #35
            His bike has worms? What the hell has he been feeding it?
            sigpicMrBill Been a GSR member on and off since April 2002
            1980 GS 750E Bought new in Feb of 1980
            2015 CAN AM RTS


            Stuff I've done to my bike:dancing: 1100E front end with new Sonic springs, 1100E swing arm conversion with new Progressive shocks installed, 530 sprockets/chain conversion, new SS brake lines, new brake pads. New SS fasteners through out. Rebuilt carbs, new EBC clutch springs and horn installed. New paint. Motor runs strong.

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              #36
              Originally posted by blowerbike View Post
              yes but i would have thought he would have popped off the caliper to see if the wheel would then turn.
              Yeah, you would have thought that and I would have thought that, but he evidently doesn't know to check that.
              You can also just loosen the bleeder nipple to release any pressure that has built up.

              As tkent asked, "what was hot?". That is most-likely where the problem lies.

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              mine: 2000 Honda GoldWing GL1500SE and 1980 GS850G'K' "Junior"
              hers: 1982 GS850GL - "Angel" and 1969 Suzuki T250 Scrambler
              #1 son: 1986 Yamaha Venture Royale 1300 and 1982 GS650GL "Rat Bagger"
              #2 son: 1980 GS1000G
              Family Portrait
              Siblings and Spouses
              Mom's first ride
              Want a copy of my valve adjust spreadsheet for your 2-valve per cylinder engine? Send me an e-mail request (not a PM)
              (Click on my username in the upper-left corner for e-mail info.)

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                #37
                Originally posted by Steve View Post
                But did you rebuild the master cylinder?

                Even more important, did you clean out the compensation port (which can be done without rebuilding the master)?

                If that compensation port is plugged, it will not allow fluid from the caliper to bleed back into the reservoir as it gets heated from the friction of the pads rubbing on the disk. Since the fluid is expanding and can't get into the reservoir, the only place it can expand is to push on the pads, which can lock up the wheel.

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                Yes... you did it for me remember?

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                  #38
                  No rear wheel is off the bike shaft is out... secondary is prob trash... Ill post soon

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                    #39
                    does steve know you under this nick-mick? lol
                    sorry to hear about possible internal damage..

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                      #40
                      Originally posted by blowerbike View Post
                      does steve know you under this nick-mick?
                      Yes, I do. (I even see him at work, occasionally. )

                      And yes, I cleaned the master cylinder.

                      I have worked on more than one bike since then and I have slept since then.

                      "Memory" is such a wonderful concept, I wish I could remember how to use it.

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                      Last edited by Steve; 06-30-2014, 08:21 PM.
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                      mine: 2000 Honda GoldWing GL1500SE and 1980 GS850G'K' "Junior"
                      hers: 1982 GS850GL - "Angel" and 1969 Suzuki T250 Scrambler
                      #1 son: 1986 Yamaha Venture Royale 1300 and 1982 GS650GL "Rat Bagger"
                      #2 son: 1980 GS1000G
                      Family Portrait
                      Siblings and Spouses
                      Mom's first ride
                      Want a copy of my valve adjust spreadsheet for your 2-valve per cylinder engine? Send me an e-mail request (not a PM)
                      (Click on my username in the upper-left corner for e-mail info.)

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                        #41
                        OK got it apart. The secondary drive was full of black water......... yes water and dirt
                        WTH? Dont ask me... that is just something I never check because I assumed that the crank case oil lubricated the drive shaft. Well, that sucks. But at least I didnt destroy anything and my bro is OK.

                        So I need a secondary drive assembly for 850-1100 shafty... anybody?

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                          #42
                          Originally posted by BIG_brother View Post
                          So I need a secondary drive assembly for 850-1100 shafty... anybody?
                          You want one for a 1000 or 1100, not one for the 850.

                          The ratios were different.

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                          mine: 2000 Honda GoldWing GL1500SE and 1980 GS850G'K' "Junior"
                          hers: 1982 GS850GL - "Angel" and 1969 Suzuki T250 Scrambler
                          #1 son: 1986 Yamaha Venture Royale 1300 and 1982 GS650GL "Rat Bagger"
                          #2 son: 1980 GS1000G
                          Family Portrait
                          Siblings and Spouses
                          Mom's first ride
                          Want a copy of my valve adjust spreadsheet for your 2-valve per cylinder engine? Send me an e-mail request (not a PM)
                          (Click on my username in the upper-left corner for e-mail info.)

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                            #43
                            OK then.... so yeah

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                              #44
                              Clean it out as good as you can. Long Hemostats and rags maybe to swab as much crap out as you can??? Put a new oring on the unit when you install it. Rcheap lesson to learn all things considered bro!!
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                              1978 GS 1000 E, 1979 GS 1000 S, 1973 Yamaha TX 750, 1977 Kawasaki KZ 650B1, 1975 Honda GL1000 Goldwing, 1983 CB 650SC Nighthawk, 1972 Honda CB 350K4, 74 Honda CB550

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                              I would rather trust my bike to a "QUACK" that KNOWS how to fix it rather than a book worm that THINKS HE KNOWS how to fix it.

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                                #45
                                I actually have one of those in my parts I'm never going to use collection.

                                For an '82 1100G.
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