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    Rivet chain link vs. clip on chain link.

    I'm trying to decide if I should stay with clip type or rivet type for my chains?
    Don't want to waste money on rivet tool if not needed. All my chains have clip type now and wondering what is better especially for higher HP 1100 motor.
    Never had trouble with clip on but always worry a bit if it will hold.

    #2
    Just mount them correctly. If there were a problem with them, sales of them would've stopped a long time ago.

    OTOH; rivet tools can be had very cheaply, so I don't quite get why people fear wasting money...?
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      #3
      A good tool will cost more then I want to spend if not needed. If there was an added benefits to the rivet type I would consider the investment, myself I prefer the clip on type. Was just trying to get other onions.

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        #4
        I've had clips come off during a ride, side plate went missing once. Made it home that day purely because the rest of the link happened to stay in the two ends of the chain.

        I've never had any issues of any kind with riveted master links. Tool is easy to use and cheap compared to the potential damage to bike and rider(s).

        No brainer for me, rivet every time.

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          #5
          IMO, never, ever use a clip link. I've seen plenty of them fail. I've never seen a rivet link fail.

          Now, this is the point in the discussion were a chunk of the old timers puff out their chests, hook their thumbs through the bib overall suspenders and start pontificating, "Well, I never had a problem with no damn clip link, and if you install it right you won't either." To which I reply, that's fine, but it's a small sample size. I've never had a problem either. But I have seen ones fail that were put on by guys I know to be competent mechanics.
          So given the small cost of the tool, and the possible catastrophic consequences of failure, depending on exactly when it happens, I view using a rivet link as a no-brainer.

          And besides, now you have a perfectly good excuse to go buy another tool. Looking for ways out makes me think we may need to revoke your man-card.
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            #6
            Originally posted by RichDesmond View Post
            IMO, never, ever use a clip link. I've seen plenty of them fail. I've never seen a rivet link fail.

            Now, this is the point in the discussion were a chunk of the old timers puff out their chests, hook their thumbs through the bib overall suspenders and start pontificating, "Well, I never had a problem with no damn clip link, and if you install it right you won't either." To which I reply, that's fine, but it's a small sample size. I've never had a problem either. But I have seen ones fail that were put on by guys I know to be competent mechanics.
            So given the small cost of the tool, and the possible catastrophic consequences of failure, depending on exactly when it happens, I view using a rivet link as a no-brainer.

            And besides, now you have a perfectly good excuse to go buy another tool. Looking for ways out makes me think we may need to revoke your man-card.
            And actually if you get creative with a hammer and punch you can easily peen the rivet before you put the wheel back on. Assuming you have it off to replace the sprocket at the same time of course. But then again the proper tool is inexpensive.
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              #7
              This $39 chain tool is not the best but it does work. https://www.cyclegear.com/accessorie...rivet-tool-kit

              Just be sure to grind off any rivet head you are trying to press out.

              With an 1100 I'd use a rivet link. Lots of people will say they use a clip link without issue, but Murphy may be riding on the back of YOUR bike, not theirs.
              Last edited by Nessism; 01-11-2017, 07:56 PM.
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                #8
                One word "BING"

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                  #9
                  Originally posted by posplayr View Post
                  One word "BING"
                  Jim, was that the sound of your chain when it came off ? LOL.
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                    #10
                    Originally posted by Sandy View Post
                    Jim, was that the sound of your chain when it came off ? LOL.
                    I was popping the clutch at about 7 grand so I don't know what it sounded like ;but after Gustovh and I walked up and down the interstate, he found the retaining clip. But when he tried to put it back on HE made that sound "BING" it was lost in the weeds never to be found again

                    Tom then trailered the bike down (with me in tow) to Redding to find a motorcycle shop to install a continuous chain.

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                      #11
                      I have a master link clip story. I was on a Banzi run from Youngstown to Pittsburgh to see "The Clarks." I was on the Pa turnpike minding my own business. Then a Volkswagen Jetta Wolfsburg addition tried to pass me. We both hit the throttle. Wide open for about 5 miles! He got off the turnpike, I backed it down... I made it to the show, had a great time. On my way home I kept hearing this clanging sound (chain tapping the chain guard). I nursed the motorcycle home. When I inspected the chain, I found the clip gone, the backing plate gone! The link was bent in a way that kept the chain together! The clip style master link is okay for bicycles and scooters, AND ED'S 750T but not for motorcycles. 👍
                      Last edited by storm 64; 01-11-2017, 09:48 PM.
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                        #12
                        My general rule-of-thumb is clip-type links are just about ok and acceptable enough on small shopping bikes (250, 400cc), but nothing bigger.
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                          #13
                          The 630 chain I got from MrBill has a clip. Bill made it a point on a thread (one time) to put on the clip in the correct direction. It worked fine for me out in Alamogordo & Las Cruces...But then again, I don't drag race on my acceleration.

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                            #14
                            I had a rivet go on me once when out riding, in the middle of God for saken Oregon! One of the pines cracked and let go, when I pulled over the other pin was hanging on for dear life. I'm guessing it was the shop that beat the hell out of the pin when they put the chain together.
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                              #15
                              The clip style master link is okay for bicycles and scooters, AND ED'S 750T but not for motorcycles. 👍[/QUOTE]

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                              My Motorcycles:
                              22 Kawasaki Z900 RS (Candy Tone Blue)
                              22 BMW K1600GT (Probably been to a town near you)
                              82 1100e Drag Bike (needs race engine)
                              81 1100e Street Bike (with race engine)
                              79 1000e (all original)
                              82 850g (all original)
                              80 KZ 650F (needs restored)

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