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info?Hello guys this is my first post here.I am on the process to close my gs550 oil pan after full engine rebuild.Parts catalogue is showing an oring under the crankcase but when i was stripping the engine i didnt find any oring there.Any info?
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99% of the time if the parts catalogue calls for a part there is a good reason. Study the design of the usage for the o-ring and that may help you understand.Ed
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the o ring seals the routing of the oilsystem in mine
damned important for oil pressure but you dont have a high pressure oiling system I think.1983 GS 550 LD
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That fiche is the crankcase, he mentioned "oil pan" in his post.Originally posted by Fjbj40 View Post
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Theo,
Welcome to GSR.
I see a gasket/washer on drain plug.
I see a gasket on the pan.
Only o-ring I see is one the filter cover (and often comes with the filter, Fram filters anyway.)
.Last edited by Redman; 11-15-2017, 08:39 PM.
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But, he said "under the crankcase", he did not say under his oil pan.Originally posted by Steve View PostThat fiche is the crankcase, he mentioned "oil pan" in his post.
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He said he rebuilt his engine and did not see it when he was stripping the engine. Suzuki bonds that o-ring in place with Suzuki-bond so it stays put during mating of the case halves.
Typically you have to scrape or prise the o-ring off during the cleaning process. If he did not do that, which you would if you were doing a proper rebuild, he may be in luck, maybe!1978 Gs1085 compliments of Popy Yosh, Bandit 1200 wheels and front end, VM33 Smoothbores, Yosh exhaust, braced frame, ported polished head
1983 Gs1100ESD, rebuild finished! Body paintwork happening winter 2017
I would rather trust my bike to a technician that reads the service manual than some backyardigan that THINKS HE KNOWS how to fix things.Comment
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I guess it's all in how you read it.Originally posted by Fjbj40 View PostBut, he said "under the crankcase", he did not say under his oil pan.
He said he rebuilt his engine and did not see it when he was stripping the engine. Suzuki bonds that o-ring in place with Suzuki-bond so it stays put during mating of the case halves.
Typically you have to scrape or prise the o-ring off during the cleaning process. If he did not do that, which you would if you were doing a proper rebuild, he may be in luck, maybe!
The way I read it, he is "closing (installing?) the oil pan, the catalogue shows an o-ring under the crankcase." I take that as 'under the crankcase, but over the oil pan'. If it was part #26 on the crankcase fiche, as you suggested, that would be IN or INSIDE the crankcase, not 'under' it.Originally posted by theo305 View Post
I gues we will just have to wait for him to come back and clarify for us.
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hers: 1982 GS850GL - "Angel" and 1969 Suzuki T250 Scrambler
#1 son: 1986 Yamaha Venture Royale 1300 and 1982 GS650GL "Rat Bagger"
#2 son: 1980 GS1000G
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Mom's first ride
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Looking at the crankcase fiche they show 2 of the #26 O-rings.
Looking at the 550 FSM it does not show the o-ring under the oil pan. It does show a picture of the oil pan mounting surface and there appears to be a round boss next to the oil pick-up screen. I wonder is this what he is talking about? Is this where the lower #26 o-ring in the crankcase fiche is supposed to go?1978 Gs1085 compliments of Popy Yosh, Bandit 1200 wheels and front end, VM33 Smoothbores, Yosh exhaust, braced frame, ported polished head
1983 Gs1100ESD, rebuild finished! Body paintwork happening winter 2017
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THis all is a good example of how the microfiche is mostly intended to identify the part number of the part, assuming that already understand how-it-goes-together and what-is-what.
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Yup, you are absolutely correct!Originally posted by Redman View Post1978 Gs1085 compliments of Popy Yosh, Bandit 1200 wheels and front end, VM33 Smoothbores, Yosh exhaust, braced frame, ported polished head
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It has been three days, and we are still waiting for him to come back and see what we have been suggesting.
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hers: 1982 GS850GL - "Angel" and 1969 Suzuki T250 Scrambler
#1 son: 1986 Yamaha Venture Royale 1300 and 1982 GS650GL "Rat Bagger"
#2 son: 1980 GS1000G
Family Portrait
Siblings and Spouses
Mom's first ride
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First time poster, probably not hear from him again!1978 Gs1085 compliments of Popy Yosh, Bandit 1200 wheels and front end, VM33 Smoothbores, Yosh exhaust, braced frame, ported polished head
1983 Gs1100ESD, rebuild finished! Body paintwork happening winter 2017
I would rather trust my bike to a technician that reads the service manual than some backyardigan that THINKS HE KNOWS how to fix things.Comment
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HelloI am sorry for late reply but last days i was working midnight hours.I am not talking about the oring between the crankcases.The part fiche bottom crankcase shows two orings no26.There is a hole next to oil screen that attaches on another hole in oil pan.Should i put an oring there?Comment
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Last edited by Nessism; 11-27-2017, 02:53 PM.Ed
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