I Think I Found My Oil Leak :( - FIXED!!!

[Hoomgar]

Take a deep breath.....blow it out slowly....there ya go.

Thanks for the oil seal tip.

I'm chillin Bret
Thx buddy.

I get over things once I get a grip on them. I understand that everyone has their own strenths and weeknesses. I sure have my share of both. But I hate to be at the receiving end of the outcome of someone elses stupidity.

That is always a hard pill for me to swallow. But I am getting better at it all the time. My vintage bikes are now helping me with that

[Hoomgar]

JEsus!!! that's insane!!!
8O
Man, you were right! Whoever had the bike before you was a real idiot!!

Yikes, glad you got it figured out and taken care of easily and cheaply.

Yeah 10 bucks for a new seal, o-ring and other assorted bits. Already ordered and hopefully on their way soon.

I can't believe this thing is holding oil at all right now 8O

[feelergaugephil]

it looks like the guy I bought my GS1000 from worked on your bike too!

[Big T]

Mark,

Just another reason for doing your own wrenching. Looks like a simple repair and no more oil leak. Good thing you caught it before it chewed up the case! :roll:

See, you just needed a diversion from carb tuning anyway.

[Hap Call]

I really hope I'm wrong about this but I think there is a "C" clip that prevents the removal of that seal without splitting the case. I know there is one on mine. It goes in the upper crankcase half.


Hap

[Hoomgar]

I really hope I'm wrong about this but I think there is a "C" clip that prevents the removal of that seal without splitting the case. I know there is one on mine. It goes in the upper crankcase half.


Hap

There is Hap. But the lower case half is cut away to allow the installation and removal of the seal without splitting the case. I ordered the retainer too.

I have been informed from a good source that this not only can be done without splitting the cases but that it is easy too.

That said, people can be wrong. So in the event it cannot be done that way then it will just have to leak and wait. I'll do it when I restore this bike.

That's right, I am going to do a frame up restoration on this bike too

Once the first one is done. This one I am doing myself!

I already have all the needed gaskets, seals and o-rings for the entire engine. But no hurry on that. Maybe next year. We'll see.

[Hap Call]

I'm really not sure why Suzuki elected to put the "C" clip there. There is not one on the crank seal behind the ignition advance governor. That one I've changed without splitting the case.

I hope it works out well for you!

Hap

[Anonymous]

From what I've seen, it wouldn't surprise me if it was the dealer shop! :roll:

[mcycle-nut]

Ooops! That's the thing with used bikes, you have to deal with other people's buffoonery, as you put it. :? After owning my 750 for 14 years and knowining every nut and bolt, it was a bit of a shock when I started working on my '83 1100. Found a few head scratchers on that one! Luckily my '82 wasn't too badly hacked. 8)

[jknappsax]

I can't believe I didn't see what sprocket was propped on!

Usually I notice stuff like this RIGHT AWAY! I'm glad you had no murderous thoughts; maybe the ammo supporting the sprocket was just a Freudian slip! I've seen you when you get mad, so I hope for your sake ( to avoid a jail term) and the moron who "worked" on your bike that you never meet whatever ham-handed, all -thumbs monkey did this. As much as sometimes my 750 doesn't have all the punch of a literbike, I've known it since it was new, so I stick with it.

[LW_Icarus]

it looks like the guy I bought my GS1000 from worked on your bike too!

Looks like we have a rogue "mechanic" working on suzukis just before they are sold. my "creampuff" GS850 has apparently also been worked on at some time by Hoomies mechanic.

I did get a chuckle out of your rant though. kinda like spending 100 bucks on a wrecker to find out the last guy that owned the car didnt tighten a screw in the rotor button. DOH!

[gremlin]

it looks like the guy I bought my GS1000 from worked on your bike too!

Looks like we have a rogue "mechanic" working on suzukis just before they are sold. my "creampuff" GS850 has apparently also been worked on at some time by Hoomies mechanic.

I did get a chuckle out of your rant though. kinda like spending 100 bucks on a wrecker to find out the last guy that owned the car didnt tighten a screw in the rotor button. DOH!

I bet every one is taking there bikes to the guy that trained a the bike shop mechanic in my town. that guy can take a purfectly working bike and turn it into scrap. just by changing the fuel filter.

[Giblet]

One piece of advice Hoom. Don't mention gas soaked rags & fire when ranting about your GS woes. Kinda freaks people out :? They just don't understand us "high strung" boys.

[Hoomgar]

LOL! You guys are great
No I don't feel like killing anyone. Just edjucating them

Well the sealer quick fix idea worked as well as a tuna sandwitch would have. It leaks just the same as ever. When my seal comes in, I will try to install it. If this cannot be done without splitting the cases as some have warned then it will be going on the southern rally ride with the auto chain luber still installed. I just can't park it in any nice driveways :roll:

[RacingJake]

Sorry for the late reply Mark.

Is your seal still in one piece, no holes? make sure you have the o-ring behind the sprocket spacer that's between the bearing, if that's missing it will allow oil to leak around the output shaft too. You could try and turn the sprocket spacer around so the seal will be touching some new metal.

That bearing half ring is going to be a small problem.

If you have some tools you could try this, drill a small hole 1/8"near the edge of the bearing half ring just enough to go through but not touch the bearing behind it. Then with a punch knock it out without breaking the groove off the case. Once out you drill two small holes 180 degrees apart and install sheet metal screws into the oil seal, again don't touch the bearing behind it. With pliers grab the screws and work the seal out. Grease up the flange area and tap a new seal back in, this will take some time and a few trys. You should be able to re-use the half ring and tap it back in the groove with some lock-tight.

The main thing is to limit the damage to the half ring and seal.

Double check that o-ring on the output shaft, maybe that's the cause.

Like I said it's a SPITA but it worked on my 750

Jake's .02 cents