TufStop brake pads?

[Grandpa]

I guess I'm just silly and stupid, Boondocks, and I bow to a much more intelligent human being.

I'm giving my opinion, not based on scientific facts, as you claim. It's based on almost a quarter million miles of riding GS bikes, using many brands of pads. I'm only speaking for my experience of large GS shafties. People deserve to hear more than numbers and statistics; they deserve to hear real world experience.

But you're so much smarter. Thank you.

[Boondocks]

I guess I'm just silly and stupid, Boondocks, and I bow to a much more intelligent human being.

I'm giving my opinion, not based on scientific facts, as you claim. It's based on almost a quarter million miles of riding GS bikes, using many brands of pads. I'm only speaking for my experience of large GS shafties. People deserve to hear more than numbers and statistics; they deserve to hear real world experience.

But you're so much smarter. Thank you.

You're very welcome.:-D

[Surly]

I feel sick

All those numbers make the right half of my brain hurt.

[Grandpa]

So, Surly, I suggest you forget all the crap that superintelligent Boondocks threw at you, buy whatever pad is available, convenient, and inexpensive, install them, and ride and enjoy your motorcycle.

Dumb old Grandpa

[Surly]

I appreciate all the info

So, Surly, I suggest you forget all the crap that superintelligent Boondocks threw at you, buy whatever pad is available, convenient, and inexpensive, install them, and ride and enjoy your motorcycle.

Dumb old Grandpa

I love information, but numbers sting like a thumb to the eye and make me drool excessively.

BD's links were very helpful, I now understand the difference in pad types and how pads are rated. And Grandpa's real-world opinions tell it like it is. All very insightful information. Just shows that opinions are like torsos, everyone has one.

The Vesrah pads on the bike slow the tank fine and have an F to G-ish rating, think I'll order front and rear soon. And they are pretty inexpensive, far less than some of the other brands and farrrrrrr less than OEM. The money I'll save will go toward next years braided stainless lines. THAT will make a difference.

[Pharkmeh]

So, Surly, I suggest you forget all the crap that superintelligent Boondocks threw at you, buy whatever pad is available, convenient, and inexpensive, install them, and ride and enjoy your motorcycle.

Dumb old Grandpa

all the responses here are valuable m8...

noones dissen you ya old fart....


thx to all for takin the time

cheers

Phark

[tomcat24551]

... The money I'll save will go toward next years braided stainless lines. THAT will make a difference.

Here's an opinion I bet no one'll want to hear.

I put stainless steel brake lines on my '79 850 three years ago, but guess what? Made very litttle difference--maybe none--in stopping power. I guess it increased my confidence, though, because now I feel I can apply brute force (which you have to do with this motorcycle!) to the lever without bursting the lines. The old OEM lines were 24 years old and I was getting scared!

Bottom line: Stainless steel lines are no magic potion in my experience.

[koolaid_kid]

While stainless steel brake lines are not a panacea for making your brakes better, they should improve brake feel.
Just remember, when you have your brakes firmly applied, the work is now being done by the pads and rotors. So, unless you changed those as well, overall stopping power will be the same.

[tomcat24551]

While stainless steel brake lines are not a panacea for making your brakes better, they should improve brake feel.
Just remember, when you have your brakes firmly applied, the work is now being done by the pads and rotors. So, unless you changed those as well, overall stopping power will be the same.

Yes, I did change 'em from the OEM "FF" pads to EBC "GG" pads at the same time I did the lines. The problem is a poor design in the '79 caliper, I think. An '83 850 with OEM rubber lines and OEM pads stops better than the massaged '79 described above.

I'm in the market for a clean set of '80-83 calipers. If anyone has any for sale, please PM me. Many thanks.

[Surly]

Changing calipers

Will these later model 850 calipers you speak of retrofit on the older 1000s? I haven't had nearly enough playing around with brakes lately, a swap would be fu-un.

[chef1366]

M8 means mate which means buddy in Aussie. He was defending you.

[chef1366]

Boondocks just wants everyone to be safe and have the best braking power. He's obviously done his homework and was sharing the knowledge. Granpa has experience on his side and was sharing it with us which we all appreciate. This doesn't have to turn ugly, just a bunch of guys and gals sharing their knowledge of our beloved GS bikes. Phark was being himself and using humor to try to remedy the situation and shouldn't be taken with hostility. Now let's all shake hands and be friends.

[Grandpa]

Will these later model 850 calipers you speak of retrofit on the older 1000s? I haven't had nearly enough playing around with brakes lately, a swap would be fu-un.

I had a 1979 GS850 with the old style front calipers. I installed the newer (1980 and up) caliper from a previous 850 I was parting out, and they fit perfectly.

Don't know about the 1000's, but I suspect they shared the same calipers as the old 850. Therefore, I venture to guess the new calipers will retrofit.

I deleted my nasty post. Sorry, folks. Especially sorry, Phark.

[Pharkmeh]

I deleted my nasty post. Sorry, folks. Especially sorry, Phark.

cheers m8... tis all good buddy


it would prolly help if Frank installed that intergalactic translator icon Ive been asking for.....




Phark

[tomcat24551]

I had a 1979 GS850 with the old style front calipers. I installed the newer (1980 and up) caliper from a previous 850 I was parting out, and they fit perfectly.

Don't know about the 1000's, but I suspect they shared the same calipers as the old 850. Therefore, I venture to guess the new calipers will retrofit.

I deleted my nasty post. Sorry, folks. Especially sorry, Phark.

Thanks, Gramps. I thought they would fit, but I'd never had really done any measuring, etc. I'm glad to know they'll really work. Did you think they improved the stopping power?

Surly must be talking about the pre-shaft 1000's, since the the 1000G models started in 1980, or '81, I think--and they had the new caliper.

The part number on the OLD, round pad, '79 850 caliper was originally 59100-45100 (RH) and 59300-45100 (LH). Surly could check to see if the part numbers on the OEM caliper for the bike he's interested in are the same. They probably are.

Say, Grandpa, how old are you anyway? I bet you're not any older than me!