Urgent Help needed

[Plasterdog]

I am offically the biggest idiot on this forum!!!!

I was drilling out the right side lower engine mount bolt 'cause it was locked solid and no amount of impact-driver, etc., was moving it one iota. So I'm drilling away and thinking, this is going a little too dee....what's that OIL NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO OOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
You can imagine the rest of the language. plus the freaking enigine mount nut is still stuck. I don't phucking believe I was so phucking stupid!

HELP!!!!!

[UncleMike]

This is no good. This is no good.

[Plasterdog]

Would this work, taping the hole and using a slightly longer bolt to screw into the case thus sealing the hole?

[t3rmin]

The testimonials on the JB Weld package indicate it would fix that sort of thing. It'd be hard to get it up there without dropping any through on the other side which would probably be really bad too. Maybe it could be done with the head off?

[crag antler]

Oh Plasterdog......I feel your pain.
Hopefully someone here can help you....
Ouch

[Poot]

your going to want to flush out any metal filings that got in there. once you do so, I suppose that cutting a bolt shorter, and getting it in really tight, and then jb welding the Sh*t out of it might work. it wont be pretty, but hey.


poot

[dpep]

I would drain the oil of course and clean all traces of it from the hole you drilled (long q-tips?). I would mix up a tiny amount of JB Weld, just enough to cover the drilled hole, and let it set a bit before applying so it would not drip through to the other side. I would let that set for at least a day, maybe two. I would then come back in with a thicker layer of JB over top of that and let that set for a couple of days. At this point your hole may not be as deep as it was so you may actually need a shorter bolt and perhaps some locktite to keep it secure.

As a last step I would put a rubber/plastic washer on the bolt where it enters the engine. If the oil does get past you JB patch it would still have to get past the washer. If the washer is the same thickness as your JB patch you might be able to keep the same bolt. Fortunately the GS oil circulation is low pressure. Your chances of keeping it in the engine would be good.

Now all of that assumes I have visualized your problem correctly. I could be way off the mark. How about post a couple of pictures and I'll bet one of the wizards on this site will know exactly what to do.

P.S. Defintely be putting that bolt back in with a torque wrench....carefully.

[Plasterdog]

your going to want to flush out any metal filings that got in there. once you do so, I suppose that cutting a bolt shorter, and getting it in really tight, and then jb welding the Sh*t out of it might work. it wont be pretty, but hey.


poot

Pretty, will not be a problem as it's not easily visable. It's not even easy to get at.

[Plasterdog]

I would drain the oil of course and clean all traces of it from the hole you drilled (long q-tips?). I would mix up a tiny amount of JB Weld, just enough to cover the drilled hole, and let it set a bit before applying so it would not drip through to the other side. I would let that set for at least a day, maybe two. I would then come back in with a thicker layer of JB over top of that and let that set for a couple of days. At this point your hole may not be as deep as it was so you may actually need a shorter bolt and perhaps some locktite to keep it secure.

As a last step I would put a rubber/plastic washer on the bolt where it enters the engine. If the oil does get past you JB patch it would still have to get past the washer. If the washer is the same thickness as your JB patch you might be able to keep the same bolt. Fortunately the GS oil circulation is low pressure. Your chances of keeping it in the engine would be good.

Now all of that assumes I have visualized your problem correctly. I could be way off the mark. How about post a couple of pictures and I'll bet one of the wizards on this site will know exactly what to do.

P.S. Defintely be putting that bolt back in with a torque wrench....carefully.

Er... the oil kinda drained already.

My first concern is how do I get the exsisting (remains of) bolt out without doing further damage. Then I can probably do as you suggest Don. I think the idea of "building" a JB weld "plug" going to be the best. But I know I'll be paranoid about it blowing one fine day. There again so could a thousand and one things on a 23 year old bike.8-[

[first timer]

can you post some pictures so i can get a better idea of whats going on?

-ryan

[Nessism]

can you post some pictures so i can get a better idea of whats going on?

-ryan

Agree! I can't visualize what's going on here.

Ed

[Plasterdog]

can you post some pictures so i can get a better idea of whats going on?

-ryan

I'll try to get to that later today/tonight. I have to work on lighting the hole(s).

[jpaul]

I think I know which one you're talking about. Is the nut number 23 on this diagram.http://www.alpha-sports.com/suzuki_parts.htm
You may have to pull the engine to do any lasting repair. How big is the hole? I think if it were my bike, I wouldn't just use JB Weld to fill the hole, unless it is REALLY small. I think you'd be better off to clean up the hole, and JB Weld a screw into place. I have my 80 1100E engine on a bench for cleaning right now so I have a pretty good view of the area. You may be able to see the inside of the hole when the oil pan is pulled. I would pull the oil pan just to have a look at what's in the area around the hole. Good luck with the repair.

[Plasterdog]

http://evanstonphoto.com/HolyGS.html

I just finished taking the photos.
Thanks for all the ideas guys, keep them coming.

[Plasterdog]

I think I know which one you're talking about. Is the nut number 23 on this diagram.http://www.alpha-sports.com/suzuki_parts.htm
You may have to pull the engine to do any lasting repair. How big is the hole? I think if it were my bike, I wouldn't just use JB Weld to fill the hole, unless it is REALLY small. I think you'd be better off to clean up the hole, and JB Weld a screw into place. I have my 80 1100E engine on a bench for cleaning right now so I have a pretty good view of the area. You may be able to see the inside of the hole when the oil pan is pulled. I would pull the oil pan just to have a look at what's in the area around the hole. Good luck with the repair.

Nut number 23 is the upper engine mount. The nut (apart from me) in question is 24, bolt 22. Dropping the oil pan is not going to get me closer, it's definately the lower half of the crankcase.

Anyone got a spare lying around, per chance????