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    Stainless Steel Brake lines GS650

    I've been trying to source SS brake lines for my GS650. I found these people who are willing to make me a custom set. However they do not have the specs for my bike. I would hate to have to take off my present lines to determine the lengths and fittings.

    Does anyone have the specs for the end fittings I need as I can probably measure-up the lengths on the bike.

    Here's their response and what they need to know:

    :shock:

    Hi Cletus,

    I'm afraid I do not have the specs for this bike. However we can still make them. Here are the instructions (and pricing ) to get you exactly the right lines.


    We can have them custom made with same day or next day turnaround.

    You can send us the lines for copying to:

    Attn: Cycle Brakes Custom Lines

    c/o GALFER

    310 Irving St.

    Oxnard, CA 93030

    Or, Please fax a drawing of how the lines should look with these measurements and fitting angles to ATTN: Melissa, Cycle Brakes 805-671-5002 (this is a phone/fax so just press "Send") or email them to 'tech@cyclebrakes.com'.

    Here's how to measure to get the specs you need:

    Measure the ENTIRE length of the line, from the center of the eye of the banjo at the Master cylinder to the center of the eye of the banjo/fitting at the caliper. (If you have measured tip to tip of the banjo's you need to specify this to us.)

    When ordering custom lines most customers make them 1/2" longer for a bit of leeway. It's better to be slightly longer than to come up short. Custom lines are non-refundable.

    Route a cloth measuring tape (a piece of TV cable works well also) the way you want to route the line's) and describe the banjo fittings to me. We currently have the following popular bends or degrees of bend:

    0 : banjo Straight

    12 degree

    40 degree

    90 degree

    (Female or Male fittings are also available for direct threading, but hard lines are typically bypassed.)

    ON EACH LINE END WHICH WAY DO THE FITTINGS LOOK WHEN ONE BANJO IS FACING DOWN? FOR EXAMPLE: FLAT-FLAT ( =---= ) OR IS IT DASH-ONE ( =---O )? Fax or e-mail the orientation to us. It is easiest to start with the fitting that has a bend facing flat on the table. The fittings of the Galfer lines DO swivel and we send 'how-to' info upon request.

    IMPORTANT: With the drawing of exactly what you want, remember to include your NAME, PHONE, and bike info. How many bolts and washers you need. There is no extra charge for replacement hardware if requested, with the custom line, but you must include the thread pitch by specifying 10x1, 10x1.25 or 10x3AN. (10x1mm was used on most European, 10x1.25mm was used on most Japanese, and 10x3AN was used on most US). <Harley Davidsons: some models have 10mm and 12 mm fittings. 12x3AN Bolts are not available from Galfer and you must use stock.>

    Color choices for the stainless steel brake lines are free and currently the coatings are available in red, orange, yellow, green, blue, clear, smoke or opaque black. The lines include banjo bolts and washers. Lines come with silver colored fittings standard, but you may upgrade to Gold fittings ($10 per kit) or Aluminum fittings for an additional cost.

    Current prices, Front 1-line kit - $55, 2-line kit $89, 3-line kit $129. Add rear or hydraulic clutch single line kit for only $40. Additional custom charge of $5 applies to each 'kit' up to a 60" length.

    Pictures that go along with these directions are found by clicking on this link: http://www.cyclebrakes.com/html/custom_lines.html .

    Take care and ride safe,

    Shirley

    Sales Department

    Cycle Brakes:shock:

    #2
    Have you tried Paragon Performance? They may have your bike specs and make nice lines. I love mine.
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      #3
      Unfortunately they don't have an off the shelf one for the 650. Taking measurements for my lines tonight (I will add an extra inch). not sure what the bolt specs are though (diameter, length thread-pitch), and I really don't want to take it apart.
      Last edited by Guest; 09-14-2006, 04:52 PM.

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        #4
        I have a few parts and lines, but I will be leaving town tonite for the weekend, not back until at least tues. if you can wait that long I can try to find some info for you?

        I got some lines on ebay that were too long by far, and the fittings don't quite line up... good on ya for getting them made.

        I think paragon will make you the first set for a discount if they don't have the specs and you supply them. I could fish around with you to increase the apparent intrest?

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          #5
          Originally posted by snowbeard View Post
          I have a few parts and lines, but I will be leaving town tonite for the weekend, not back until at least tues. if you can wait that long I can try to find some info for you?

          I got some lines on ebay that were too long by far, and the fittings don't quite line up... good on ya for getting them made.

          I think paragon will make you the first set for a discount if they don't have the specs and you supply them. I could fish around with you to increase the apparent intrest?
          Sounds GOOD!
          I'm in no rush. My brakes work fine as is, but eventually I intend to overhaul the braking system (new pads, seals, etc) and at that time I will spring for the SS brake lines too.

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            #6
            Last year I had CycleBrakes make a rear line for my 1100. They did a good job, were pleasant to deal with and got the line to me very quickly. The fit was perfect. I don't recall what the pitch for the banjo bolt was but I'm sure that you'd be able to find out by searching the archives for "banjo" and "pitch".

            Keep in mind that the SS lines don't bend as well as the stock rubbers so you'll need to add an inch or two.

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              #7
              Originally posted by Mr. Jiggles View Post
              Last year I had CycleBrakes make a rear line for my 1100. They did a good job, were pleasant to deal with and got the line to me very quickly. The fit was perfect. I don't recall what the pitch for the banjo bolt was but I'm sure that you'd be able to find out by searching the archives for "banjo" and "pitch".

              Keep in mind that the SS lines don't bend as well as the stock rubbers so you'll need to add an inch or two.
              Thanks for the advice, I will add 2" just to be safe.

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                #8
                Originally posted by Jethro View Post
                Have you tried Paragon Performance? They may have your bike specs and make nice lines. I love mine.
                Yeah, the people at Paragon are great! They will even give you a nice discount if they don't have yours available! All you've got to do is carefully measure them and give them an accurate description.

                I would strongly suggest that you not add an inch to your measurements. Just carefully measure each line, write down your findings..then, when you're done, set your measurements aside and do it again. I feel sure you'll get it done perfectly!:-D

                P.S. Use a cloth or plastic tape measure like the kind that are used by tailors and seamstresses. They cost about a U.S. dollar, or so.
                1980 GS1100E....Number 15!

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                  #9
                  Originally posted by chuckycheese View Post
                  Yeah, the people at Paragon are great! They will even give you a nice discount if they don't have yours available! All you've got to do is carefully measure them and give them an accurate description.

                  I would strongly suggest that you not add an inch to your measurements. Just carefully measure each line, write down your findings..then, when you're done, set your measurements aside and do it again. I feel sure you'll get it done perfectly!:-D

                  P.S. Use a cloth or plastic tape measure like the kind that are used by tailors and seamstresses. They cost about a U.S. dollar, or so.
                  Why not add a "safety inch"? I think I have the room for it.

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                    #10
                    Originally posted by cberkeley View Post
                    Why not add a "safety inch"? I think I have the room for it.

                    Be careful with how long they are.
                    If too long, they can rub against the frame or fairings.
                    Think about it, braided stainless steel against.........a frame or
                    fiberglass, plastic fairing.
                    Can you say rasp? or file?

                    I say a guy install ss lines on his bike, and they were too long.
                    One of em actually kept getting caught on a header, tough to
                    make a tight walking speed turn when the forks won't turn.

                    he fixed it.

                    Also didn't/ doesn't "Hel" make lines?
                    Sorry here's their link and locator.
                    Last edited by KGB; 09-16-2006, 03:17 PM. Reason: added link
                    Keith
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                    2015Triumph Trophy SE

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                      #11
                      Right

                      Good points, Keith. Also, if you're careful with your measurements, they will be perfect...and an "extra inch" will be an inch too much.

                      Another good idea is to draw the lines with the proper banjos and proper angles represented (and clearly labeled). These things can be easily done without removing the lines from the bike...just think about it very clearly and double and triple check. That's what I did and the folks at Paragon made my new ones absolutely identical. The drawing doesn't have to be fancy...just accurate.:-|

                      By the way, the Paragon lines have an outer, plastic sleeve...and you can choose the color!
                      Last edited by chuckycheese; 09-16-2006, 04:12 PM.
                      1980 GS1100E....Number 15!

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