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    1100 clutch question

    Anybody done time staring at the clutch baskets on 1100 vs. 1150's?
    Back in 85' I sheared the rivits off the basket on my 1100E clutch and had it repaired. On my current 1100E (different one) I put in a 10 disc clutch pack and welded the rivit heads on both sides. Ive had no problems with this setup on the street for 2000 miles and the motor is a little juicier at 142hp at the rear tire (rear tire dyno'ed). Im going to step up to an other than stock cams in the motor soon and Im thinking about the clutch basket again. Not only do the steel baskets shear the rivits, they also shatter from stress cracks after awhile.
    So I was thinking about an 1150 clutch basket. They are designed in answer to the previous problems and are aluminum. Lighter and stronger has to be better. I checked part numbers and all are the same for the bearing cages and spacers.
    I recently had opportunity to buy a complete setup from and 85' 1150ES. All the parts are the same except for the basket/drive plate of course.
    So this weekend I decided to dig in and swap them out and see if it would work. Turns out the drive plate is 1mm larger in diameter and it looks like this will be the reason for the answer to be "Wont Work".:?
    Has anybody tried this before? Does anybody have any ideas before I put it back together this week?

    #2
    Sorry Mike...have never seen an 1150 basket...not trying to hijack your thread, but I am curious as to what mods you have done to the 1100 to extract 142 h.p. at the wheel, running the stock cams, to boot!
    BTW, Vance & Hines and similar performance clutch baskets appear on ebay from time to time, with the heavy duty backing plate etc......you might want to keep an eye out for them.

    Tony.
    '82 GS1100E



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      #3

      If you got the dough. A dragbike building buddy of mine swears by them.
      1983 GS 1100E w/ 1230 kit, .340 lift Web Cams, Ape heavy duty valve springs, 83 1100 head with 1.5mm oversized SS intake valves, 1150 crank, Vance and Hines 1150 SuperHub, Star Racing high volume oil pump gears, 36mm carebs Dynojet stage 3 jet kit, Posplayr's SSPB, Progressive rear shocks and fork springs, Dyna 2000, Dynatek green coils and Vance & Hines 4-1 exhaust.
      1985 GS1150ES stock with 85 Red E bodywork.

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        #4
        I just counted my primary drive gear teeth on the basket of my 1150 motored Katana. It had 89. I've been told the 1100 may have fewer teeth and may cause a wurring sound if fitted into an 1150 motor. Don't know how many teeth the 1100 has or if it has fewer teeth.

        I think your motor will tax a stock clutch eventually.
        GS\'s since 1982: 55OMZ, 550ES, 750ET, (2) 1100ET\'s, 1100S, 1150ES. Current ride is an 83 Katana. Wifes bike is an 84 GS 1150ES

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          #5
          Yep. Its just that simple. Ask and the answer will follow.
          Turns out the 1150 Basket has 1 more tooth than the 1100 basket.
          Oh well, I didnt pay alot for the 1150 basket and stuff, $80.00. Im sure I can get that out of it on ebay.....Unless anybody out there wants it?
          Thanks Turk!:-D

          Chef, Ya, I Know about the billet baskets and plate services you recommended. I may be talking to them in the near future. Was hoping to squeeze by and NOT pay a million dollars though. Thanks for your reply!

          Tony, the motor has an Wiseco 1166 kit, 36mm Carbs off an 1150 with 150 jets and a complete Dyna Ignition. I was actually hoping for more with these mods. Im going to put a .430 lift cam in it later this winter. Im trying to get close to 160hp and be smooth as it is now[-o<

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            #6
            I ran a GS 1100 clutch basket in my GS 1150 for a couple of thousand mi., while finding an 1150 basket. No noises or problems of any kind. Best I can remember the 1150 primary gear had 2 more teeth than the 1100 gear. Thought the 1150 gear would be slightly larger in diameter, cause of the extra teeth, but the diameters appear to be the same.
            1983 GS1100E, 1983 CB1100F, 1991 GSX1100G, 1996 Kaw. ZL600 Eliminator, 1999 Bandit 1200S, 2005 Bandit 1200S, 2000 Kaw. ZRX 1100

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              #7
              Ya. After Me and my son counting both 3 times, we came up with the 1100 having 87 teeth and the 1150 having 88. When puuting it all together the 1150 Basket wont slide fully into place because the gear teeth wont propery mesh. The carriage and roller cage wont slide in the basket hub by a nth because of this. The 1100 basket slides right in almost by itself.
              Anybody need a near new 1150 basket, carriage and roller cage? I'll post it in the parts for sale section just in case for a week before putting it up on ebay.

              Thanks Guys.

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                #8
                Mike,

                I might be interested in that basket. Are you sure there is only 88 teeth?

                I had another 1150 basket, it also had 89 teeth.
                GS\'s since 1982: 55OMZ, 550ES, 750ET, (2) 1100ET\'s, 1100S, 1150ES. Current ride is an 83 Katana. Wifes bike is an 84 GS 1150ES

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                  #9
                  Ya. My boy says Im a dummy. We counted over and over and I still wrote the wrong number. The 1150 has 89 and the 1100 has 88.
                  So it has 89 teeth. It also has less than 6000 miles on it. The bike it came from was wrecked terribly and parted out.
                  I can send a pic if you want.
                  If you want it. Id take $75 plus shipping.
                  Money order or paypal.
                  Let me know.

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                    #10
                    Hmm,

                    Sure I'd like to see a pic. carterturk@hotmail.com

                    I'm only 90 miles away. Can you provide a phone number? A friend who lives down there might be able to pick it up. Thanks Carter
                    GS\'s since 1982: 55OMZ, 550ES, 750ET, (2) 1100ET\'s, 1100S, 1150ES. Current ride is an 83 Katana. Wifes bike is an 84 GS 1150ES

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