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    Removing old tires

    I couldn't break the bead on my front tire to remove it, and I mean i really tried. so I pulled out the sawzall and cut the buggar off. then used the angle grinder to cut through the metal cable in the bead and finally got it off. Then mounted my new tire, and had a tough time getting it to pop and seat. all but a 10-15cm portion of the bead wouldn't seat. i eventually ended up with almost 80psi in the tire before it finally seated. The new tire didn't have a yellow dot on it, so i take it I could mount it anyway as long as the rotation direction was right.

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    Originally posted by Clone View Post
    The new tire didn't have a yellow dot on it, so i take it I could mount it anyway as long as the rotation direction was right.

    Assuming you spun/balanced it properly with weights......the yellow spot as I understand, it indicates the lightest point of the tire.....aligining the valve with this dot allows for less (sometimes, no) weight to be used to balance it.

    Tony.
    '82 GS1100E



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      #3
      Got lube?



      Apologies if I'm stating the obvious, but it sounds like you either didn't have proper lube or it dried up before you tried seating the bead. Real tire mounting lube works a lot better than most homemade substitutes.

      Did you clean up the old rubber gunk on the bead seating areas on the wheel?
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        #4
        A large C clamp can work wonders . Can also be very careful use a 2x4 & drive over the bead

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          #5
          I couldn't find the big C-clamp (i have used this method before) and since the tire was going in the garbage anyway, SAWZALL:twisted:
          I cleaned off the old crud the best I could without scoring the aluminum. I used dish soap, didn't have any tire mounting lube. I haven't balanced it yet, just checked it today, two days later, to see if it was sealing, 36.5psi with the digital guage after mounting, 36.5psi today, so will balance it before putting it back on the bike on saturday.

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            #6
            I have NO idea whether this would work on MC tires, but FWIW, my neighbor taught me a trick on how to seat tires when my yard tractor tire (flatter than an mc tire) came off the rim and the shop down the street was closed. First you get the tire as close to being on the rim as you can. Next, you wrap some strong thin rope around the circumference of the tire (the contact patch/tread area) and tie it. Then you take a stick and tie that to the place where you just tied it (obviously the wheel is off or jacked or on a centerstand so you can get all the way around it) and twist and twist and twist the rope to tighten it until the tire compresses in all directions toward the rim. Start filling it with air and loosen the rope as necessary. If you're not holding the stick, it will start rewinding by itself. It can take a try or two, but usually the tire will seat itself from the force of the compression while being bound by the rope.

            It was easy to do on a nice 5" wide flat tractor tire, and would require a bit more patience on a mc tire, but I figured I'd throw it out there in case it helps anyone down the road, or with their yard tractors...

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              #7
              In the boating world, the stick and rope trick is called a spanish windlass.

              Earl

              Originally posted by MissFabulous View Post
              I have NO idea whether this would work on MC tires, but FWIW, my neighbor taught me a trick on how to seat tires when my yard tractor tire (flatter than an mc tire) came off the rim and the shop down the street was closed. First you get the tire as close to being on the rim as you can. Next, you wrap some strong thin rope around the circumference of the tire (the contact patch/tread area) and tie it. Then you take a stick and tie that to the place where you just tied it (obviously the wheel is off or jacked or on a centerstand so you can get all the way around it) and twist and twist and twist the rope to tighten it until the tire compresses in all directions toward the rim. Start filling it with air and loosen the rope as necessary. If you're not holding the stick, it will start rewinding by itself. It can take a try or two, but usually the tire will seat itself from the force of the compression while being bound by the rope.

              It was easy to do on a nice 5" wide flat tractor tire, and would require a bit more patience on a mc tire, but I figured I'd throw it out there in case it helps anyone down the road, or with their yard tractors...
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