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    Gas tank ventilation question

    I read in my Haynes manual that a fuel tank that has a plugged vent hole can be the cause of the engine to start and run beautifully and then slowly fade and then stop. This is exactly what my 78 GS750EC was doing just prior to deciding I needed to rebuild my carbs. On my 78 how do I know where the vent hole is located? Is it in the top front of the tank somewhere or is it in the gas cap itself? I have studied the cap and can see no hole anywhere in the cap. I have also studied the tank itself and can find no vent hole there either.
    Anybody out there had any experience with this or have knowledge of the matter?
    I value your help!
    Thanks!
    GS750GUY (Harold)
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    If you shake the cap and it rattles you're probably okay. If it doesn't rattle, you can open it up by removing the two screws on the bottom. Be careful, theres a couple springs, ball, and sliders in there to operate the lock. Clean it all thoroughly to remove any rust and "gunk". I used Naval Jelly to remove the rust-had to mix the parts up rather frequently to keep them in contact with active acid. Used WD-40 to lube it up upon reassembly. Works great now.\\/

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      #3
      Originally posted by GS750GUY View Post
      I read in my Haynes manual that a fuel tank that has a plugged vent hole can be the cause of the engine to start and run beautifully and then slowly fade and then stop. This is exactly what my 78 GS750EC was doing just prior to deciding I needed to rebuild my carbs. On my 78 how do I know where the vent hole is located? Is it in the top front of the tank somewhere or is it in the gas cap itself? I have studied the cap and can see no hole anywhere in the cap. I have also studied the tank itself and can find no vent hole there either.
      Anybody out there had any experience with this or have knowledge of the matter?
      I value your help!
      Thanks!
      GS750GUY (Harold)
      Good question Harold. Was wondering the same thing myself.

      Wait a minute...there are no screws under the cap. Are they under the rubber flap or do we have different caps? I have a plain jane '78 750.
      Last edited by Guest; 01-10-2007, 12:35 AM.

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        #4
        Could be petcock, vent lines, fuel vent, kinked fuel line, clogged petcock screen or carbs.
        1983 GS 1100E w/ 1230 kit, .340 lift Web Cams, Ape heavy duty valve springs, 83 1100 head with 1.5mm oversized SS intake valves, 1150 crank, Vance and Hines 1150 SuperHub, Star Racing high volume oil pump gears, 36mm carebs Dynojet stage 3 jet kit, Posplayr's SSPB, Progressive rear shocks and fork springs, Dyna 2000, Dynatek green coils and Vance & Hines 4-1 exhaust.
        1985 GS1150ES stock with 85 Red E bodywork.

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          #5
          Originally posted by Pearson View Post
          Good question Harold. Was wondering the same thing myself.

          Wait a minute...there are no screws under the cap. Are they under the rubber flap or do we have different caps? I have a plain jane '78 750.
          Mine has a large plastic housing that protrudes into the tank, attached using two screws (see link). looking at the pic of yours, it's different. Sorry my post wasn't much help.

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            #6
            How does it run with the cap loose???

            On a 78 you have no lock on the cap, it's a vented cap. To troubleshoot open the cap while the bike is running poorly, if a bunch of air rushes in and it starts running better you are on the right path.
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              #7
              Fuel tank cap.

              I don't see any holes anywhere in the cap. It's hard to determine if it is the original cap or maybe some aftermarket cap. Would I hurt anything by drilling a very small hole in the cap to be sure it vented?

              GS750GUY

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                #8
                Originally posted by GS750GUY View Post
                I don't see any holes anywhere in the cap. It's hard to determine if it is the original cap or maybe some aftermarket cap. Would I hurt anything by drilling a very small hole in the cap to be sure it vented?

                GS750GUY

                This is not a recommended approach, although it would be effective if the built-up vacuum was your problem.

                Should the bike fall gas could leak through the hole, and fumes would escape at all times, especially when hot. These are not necessarily a major concern, but they can be flammable.
                Bertrand Russell: 'Men are born ignorant, not stupid. They are made stupid by education.'

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                  #9
                  Originally posted by argonsagas View Post
                  Should the bike fall gas could leak through the hole, and fumes would escape at all times, especially when hot. These are not necessarily a major concern, but they can be flammable.
                  Imagine that....light a cigarette on a hot day and have a torch that close to your crotch:shock:

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                    #10
                    Fuel Tank cap

                    Thanks guys for your wisdom. Should the problem persist after reinstalling my rebuilt carbs I will try the loose cap test and replace the cap if needed. I will forget about drilling a tiny hole. Sitting on top of a potential mulotoff coctail is not my idea of fun. One of the nice things about this wonderful GS site is that the wisdom of the experienced helps keep us greenhorns alive.
                    Thanks!!

                    GS750GUY.

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                      #11
                      Originally posted by GS750GUY View Post
                      I don't see any holes anywhere in the cap. It's hard to determine if it is the original cap or maybe some aftermarket cap. Would I hurt anything by drilling a very small hole in the cap to be sure it vented?

                      GS750GUY
                      If you have rust in your tank, and on the fuel cap, there is most likely rust inside the check ball mechansim. I don't think the fuel caps are servicable. I certainly would rather spend 20 bucks on a good cap, rather than have no ball hair for the rest of my life

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                        #12
                        Fuel Tank Cap

                        Thanks for the suggestions guys! I think before I pitch this one I will try soaking it overnight in my can of Berryman's carb cleaner (without the rubber seal of course) and see if that does the trick. I did notice some rust accumulating under the rubber seal and around the outer rim of the cap.
                        Thanks guys! You know what they say about more heads being better than one!
                        GS750Guy

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                          #13
                          Originally posted by GS750GUY View Post
                          You know what they say about more heads being better than one!
                          GS750Guy
                          That's what she said!:shock:
                          1983 GS 1100E w/ 1230 kit, .340 lift Web Cams, Ape heavy duty valve springs, 83 1100 head with 1.5mm oversized SS intake valves, 1150 crank, Vance and Hines 1150 SuperHub, Star Racing high volume oil pump gears, 36mm carebs Dynojet stage 3 jet kit, Posplayr's SSPB, Progressive rear shocks and fork springs, Dyna 2000, Dynatek green coils and Vance & Hines 4-1 exhaust.
                          1985 GS1150ES stock with 85 Red E bodywork.

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