Barnett Clutches

[brs127s]

Well, I have rode the 850 till the clutch's death. It is starting to slip in all the gears once it has reached normal operating temperature. I really wanted to order Alto fiber plates from JC Whitney, due to my good past experience with them, but the are on back order until 8/17. I checked Alto's website and talked to customer service. They have come out with a new line of fiber and steel plates, and they are still researching the fiber places for some of the GS's.

Since Alto isn't sure when they will have a clutch package ready, I don't think that JC Whitney can guarantee a shipment by 8/17. I did more internet research and found the Barnett seemed to be the best aftermarket candidate, mainly because they are compatible with synthetic oil. I was able to find the fiber clutch kit and springs from one website at a good price. I found the metal plates from another distributor in SC also at a good price. Thus, I will replace the springs, metal plates, and fiber plates all with Barnett stuff. Now my question is, what are your thoughts on Barnett products? Any info would be greatly appreciated.

[kingofvenus]

I've had a set of they're fibre plates with a set of stock steel plates and springs from an 1150 in mine for years, many of them drag racing it and slipping the clutch a ton. Good stuff.

[bonanzadave]

Got one in mine and no problamo. Had to go back to stock springs tho due to extreme clutch pull.

[mark]

When I needed to put a new clutch in my 850 I wanted to put in a Barnett. However as I asked around I was advised not to unless I was going to race it. EPA regulations have forced Barnett to manufacture their plates differently than before. I'm not an expert on this subject, but my research said no for the street.

Here's a thread I started, check the last post. You may want to PM Racing Jake for more info. about this.

http://www.thegsresources.com/_forum/showthread.php?t=92141&highlight=Barnett

Not trying to mess you up or offend, just trying to offer what I learned about the subject. Maybe in the last year they've fixed some of the problems.

Most felt for all around riding OEM is the way to go.

[Road_Clam]

Well, I have rode the 850 till the clutch's death. It is starting to slip in all the gears once it has reached normal operating temperature. I really wanted to order Alto fiber plates from JC Whitney, due to my good past experience with them, but the are on back order until 8/17. I checked Alto's website and talked to customer service. They have come out with a new line of fiber and steel plates, and they are still researching the fiber places for some of the GS's.

Since Alto isn't sure when they will have a clutch package ready, I don't think that JC Whitney can guarantee a shipment by 8/17. I did more internet research and found the Barnett seemed to be the best aftermarket candidate, mainly because they are compatible with synthetic oil. I was able to find the fiber clutch kit and springs from one website at a good price. I found the metal plates from another distributor in SC also at a good price. Thus, I will replace the springs, metal plates, and fiber plates all with Barnett stuff. Now my question is, what are your thoughts on Barnett products? Any info would be greatly appreciated.

I have Barnett drive plates, fresh OEM Suzuki springs, and I also replaced the large grooved bronze thrust washer behind the primary basket and my clutch action is perfect. Don't be temped to use Barnett springs, there is NO need for them in a street driven clutch, and the clutch pull with Barnett springs will be STIFF !!!

[brs127s]

Thanks for the reply folks. As for the springs...well I already had ordered them. I know the service manager at the local shop here. He told me to go with stiffer springs. The Barnett site listed these as stock replacements.

[49er]

Thanks for the reply folks. As for the springs...well I already had ordered them. I know the service manager at the local shop here. He told me to go with stiffer springs. The Barnett site listed these as stock replacements.

I fitted Barnett friction (fibre) plates and HD springs to my 850 after the rebuild. The standard clutch let go with the extra torque, even though the stock plates and srings were well within spec.
The clutch has a heavy feel to it at the lever. Some others have fitted a combination of OEM and Barnett HD springs (3 each) to cure the slip and the heavy feel. I will probably try that later this year and end up with a spare replacement set that way.

[brs127s]

Well, I got the Barnett steel drive plates today. I was suprised when I looked them over. The have a smooth steel finish. When I replace the stock plates, they had little oil dimples to hold oil between the plates. Is having a smooth steel between the fiber plates going to be an issue?

[chef1366]

Put em in and ride:-D If you don't like them I have some stock steels in good shape I'll part with.

[brs127s]

Oh I definitely will give them a shot...it's just that I hadn't seen anything other than the stock plates with the oil dimples. I should be getting the fiber plates and springs within the next couple of days. I need to order the rest of the stuff (gaskets, etc), and I will be ready to put the new parts in.

[tfb]

I have Barnett friction plates in my Kat1100 (bored out to 1170, ported head, Yoshi cam profile, open zorst, etc.), and they've been great. No complaints at all. You can haul the throttle open and there's no way I can get it to slip.

[Thehotbeast]

Just changed my friction (fibre) plates with the Barnett ones, used the OEM springs... runs like a new bike, very smooth and no slippage even at high RPM... very satisfied.

PS: Make sure you soak them in oil for at least 10 mins before installing them... wet clutch.

[brveagle]

i have them in my gs550e along with HD springs. i not only need them, but absolutly love the feel they give. Nothing like holding the tach at 6k and dumping the clutch.. hold on

[brs127s]

Well, I drained the oil and took the bike apart tonight. I found was caused my clutch to fail in the first place. The piano wire clip that holds the spring washer in the back of the bike popped out and got in between a metal and a fiber plate. It wore a groove in the metal plate and wore all the friction material off the side of the fiber plate. If that had not happened the clutch would have been fine.

Now this leads to the 100,000 dollar question...Do I need to put a new piano wire clip back on when I put the clutch back together, or can I just forget about it? I think I have heard that it can be left out, but I want to make sure that is true before I do.

[vwdoctor3]

the barnett clutch kit is the way to go but dont use the mt23 springs if they come in the kit. very stiff and uncomfortable for everyday street riding.