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    #16
    I'm too old for kickstarting!

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      #17
      This is getting out of hand!! I never said a word about putting a kick starter on my bike....only that it might come in handy. Understanding the difference should be fairly easy. As far as a crank starter on your car....you'd never be able to turn it. (If you still wish it had one....there's no harm in that!!) Analagies are good...but they've gotta' work.
      1980 GS1100E....Number 15!

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        #18
        Don't suppose a kicker could be retro-fit, could it

        This is a direct quote, Chuckycheese, from your initial post. Pardon me (us) if I (we) misinterpreted your statement (question).

        Nick

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          #19
          What you man WE paleface. Thats what it sounded like to me also. I thought it was a ligitimate consideration for smaller sized engines because my yammy 650 still has a properly sized kick starter on it. I think it was the last year they put them on this bike.1980 I WOULD FALL ON MY BUT FOR SURE IF I TRIED TO USE IT. 8O

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            #20
            My Ural has both electric start and a kick, I always use the kick start as it provides excellent input as to the state of engine tune,if it doesn't start on the first or at the most, 2nd kick, it's time for a valve adjustment, plus I feel more of a connection to my machine, kind of a Zen thing I guess (if you don't start I'll kick you again!!!....)

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              #21
              Hey Nick, the quote is correct...it's just not MY quote. Take a look to the left of the post and you'll see the word "Zaboz"....Chuckycheese is spelled differently. :roll:
              1980 GS1100E....Number 15!

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                #22
                OK. Got it. Another senior moment for Old Nick.

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                  #23
                  Ah the "good old days"
                  My S model does not have a kick starter either.
                  I used to enjoy kick starting my other bikes. Just because.......
                  Or watching a rider on some other "brand" usually American made, trying to kick start theirs, pull up next to them, and 1 kick start any of my other bikes.
                  The RE-5 was fun to start. It didn't have lots of compression, put would roar to about 5K and then settle down to idle.
                  My water buffalo with the expansion chambers sounded great when it started.
                  Do we need kick starter? I guess that's the question.....my opinion no.
                  As stated earlier, keep the electrics clean and in good shape and ride em hard

                  Keith
                  Keith
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                  1980 GS1000S, blue and white
                  2015Triumph Trophy SE

                  Ever notice you never see a motorcycle parked in front of a psychiatrist office?

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                    #24
                    I've owned several bikes that only had kickstarters, but they were all vertical twins with notorious electrics - long stroke too. I remember the firat time I saw a bike without a kickstart - I think it was in the '70s. BMW. I came to realize that I needed one, but the BMW didn't because of one huge difference. It was actually reliable.

                    I think an 1100 four-banger would be hard to kick. Not a power issue, you just couldn't crank it enough to start. My friend's '78 Z1R has a removable one stored under the seat. He says he's tried it before (he's owned it for 25 years), but it's almost impossible.
                    "When I give food to the poor, they call me a saint. When I ask why they are poor, they call me a communist." Bishop Helder Camara

                    "Beware of the man with only one gun. He probably knows how to use it."

                    http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a2...dStatesMap.jpg

                    82 GS1100E....black w/WC fairing and plenty o corrosion and low levels of attention

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                      #25
                      My 77 GS550e has a kickstart, much easier to use a hill. I find that when it's warm the kickstart works fine, but when it's cold, it takes so much to start it electrically that kicking really isn't an option.

                      Satch

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                        #26
                        Sometimes ya' just gotta use the kickstarter just to be cool. 8) It comes in handy during storage time just to turn the motor over so the internals aren't sitting in the same place all the time.

                        Scotty, as for the XS650, they were on the bike right 'till the end. On the bikes with points ignition, you NEEDED the kickstarter, the electric leg was pretty wimpy. The starter motor would cause too much of a draw on the electrical system, literaly "starving" the coils for power. I tended to kickstart my '77 XS650, just because it started better that way.
                        Kevin
                        E-Bay: gsmcyclenut
                        "Communism doesn't work because people like to own stuff." Frank Zappa

                        1978 GS750(x2 "projects"), 1983 GS1100ED (slowly becoming a parts bike), 1982 GS1100EZ,
                        Now joined the 21st century, 2013 Yamaha XTZ1200 Super Tenere.

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                          #27
                          My first street bike was a four cylinder with a kick start... a Honda CB750. I used the kick start half the time because it was fun. Keep the motor in tune and it was easy to kick start. I was kind of worried when I bought my GS750E in '81 because it did not have a kick start but I soon got used to it. I like the option of kick starting or electric start...I see nothing silly about that.

                          Hap

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                            #28
                            My 79 750E has a kickstart. Its not problem at all to kick it. Sitting for a week, it starts with no more than two kicks and when warm, is running before I can complete one kick.

                            Earl
                            Komorebi-The light filtering through the trees.

                            I would rather sit on a pumpkin and have it all to myself than be crowded on a velvet cushion. H.D.T.

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                              #29
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                              Last edited by earlfor; 02-28-2006, 06:48 PM.
                              Komorebi-The light filtering through the trees.

                              I would rather sit on a pumpkin and have it all to myself than be crowded on a velvet cushion. H.D.T.

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                                #30
                                If my bike didn't start immediately upon hitting the starter button, I would want a kickstart.

                                Sometimes ya' just gotta use the kickstarter just to be cool. It comes in handy during storage time just to turn the motor over so the internals aren't sitting in the same place all the time.

                                You say that because you're a much younger man, mcycle-nut. I find it hard to look back at the old kickstarting days with any nostalgia. I say good riddance to those days. I never thought it was cool. I couldn't wait to have a bike with electric start and a shaft, so I traded in my RD350 on a MotoGuzzi in 1979.

                                Chains and kickstarters -- things intelligent people eventually outgrow!

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