Does this sound like a coil issue??

[mortation]

I was using a colortune to set my mixture screws (THANKS AGAIN Fare!!!) and I had no problem setting 2 & 4. But 1 & 3 I had a bitch of a time. I couldnt keep the cylinder firing. Like the spark was to weak cause the spark was there but I had to keep wiggling and bending things to get it to fire. I managed to get it with a little work and guestimation but I was thinking about it.

What I saw would explain my popping because the gas builds up in the chamber and then randomly ignites at steady idle and decel when I am on the throttle the spark seems strong enough and 1 & 3 are on the same coil...

Does that sound right to anyone? If it does anyone got a good spare coil lol

[Jaguarjoe]

1 & 3 are on the same coil...

1 and 4 are on the same coil.
2 and 3 are on the other coil.

[mortation]

1 and 4 are on the same coil.
2 and 3 are on the other coil.

Crap. Crap. Crap. I always get that mixed up. Perhaps both coils are shot? Or something else? Wires?

[hikermikem]

Could be wires or plug caps. For the $120 (coils) & $16 (wires) from Z1 it's the best upgrade you can get for the money.

I fixed a lot of similar sins on my old 550 when I just replaced the coils.

The coils on the bike both bench tested OK, but they clearly were not up to spec when energized.

[mortation]

Could be wires or plug caps. For the $120 (coils) & $16 (wires) from Z1 it's the best upgrade you can get for the money.

I fixed a lot of similar sins on my old 550 when I just replaced the coils.

The coils on the bike both bench tested OK, but they clearly were not up to spec when energized.

Yea thats about exactly what I was thinking after what I saw. I was thinking of going OEM. Complete replacement will be about $200.

[hikermikem]

The Dynacoils are better than OEM coils

[mortation]

The Dynacoils are better than OEM coils

Better and cheaper huh? Know which coils and cables I need for an 83 GS850GLD?

[hikermikem]

I imagine these are the them:

http://www.z1enterprises.com/detail.aspx?ID=210

However, call Z1 & ask them on Mon, but I think you'll find these are the ones.

[hikermikem]

How do you like the colortune plugs? I've just bought one on e-bay & haven't used it yet.

[Thomas Kenny]

Listen to Hikermikem, I put new dyna coils on my GS550 ES and a direct relay from the battery to the coils and my by purrs. Thanks Distraction628 for recommending the dynas to me last year.

[mortation]

How do you like the colortune plugs? I've just bought one on e-bay & haven't used it yet.

The one I am using belongs to another member here and its a little bit older than the current ones I think but it works very well (Well on 2 & 4 anyway lol). Aside from it not igniting very well on 1 & 3 and me having to wiggle the wires about to get some sort of position to give me a steady fire it works as advertised. And after you use it you will notice a big difference. Mine were only off a little bit but that little bit was corrected and it feels 100% better.

With good coils and a new color tune you should be done in 15 minutes or so.

[hikermikem]

Well, I played around with my new colortune toy on the 1100G this afternoon. I must say, I never got it to show yellow, even when I shut down the cylinder by turning the adjustment screw all the way in!

Eventually I just as used it as an indicator it show when the cylinder was firing smoothly, as depicted by a steady blue ring (compared to a pulsating blue ring when VERY lean). Set all the cylinders using that method and there seemed to be a noticable improvement in both idle & power. I also reduced the popping on de-acel as well.

So overall it was helpful, but I'm a bit mystified as to why I never saw the yellow lean color?

Mike

[mortation]

Well, I played around with my new colortune toy on the 1100G this afternoon. I must say, I never got it to show yellow, even when I shut down the cylinder by turning the adjustment screw all the way in!

Eventually I just as used it as an indicator it show when the cylinder was firing smoothly, as depicted by a steady blue ring (compared to a pulsating blue ring when VERY lean). Set all the cylinders using that method and there seemed to be a noticable improvement in both idle & power. I also reduced the popping on de-acel as well.

So overall it was helpful, but I'm a bit mystified as to why I never saw the yellow lean color?

Mike

Yeallow/Orange is rich and to see it you have to screw out. Screwing in will make the flam a lighter blue to white. Screw out till it is orange then slowely screw in till all the orange is gone. Remember to let the carb stabalize after each 1/4 - 1/2 turn.

Thanks again for the heads up too on the coils!

[hikermikem]

Did I mention I was color blind (or just stupid). I guess that would explain why I never saw the yellow!

[neil young]

I imagine these are the them:

http://www.z1enterprises.com/detail.aspx?ID=210

However, call Z1 & ask them on Mon, but I think you'll find these are the ones.

great place.i just ordered a ton of crap for my hondas.
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