Head gasket outer seals?????????

[feelergaugephil]

1981 Suzuki GS1000G

I'm replacing the head gasket on it because it was seaping around the 4 outer seals.
The new gasket I'm about to put on has NO larger outer rings to place the seals on.
It is just the same size holes on each hole on the whole gasket throughout, does this mean I dont have to put seals on the outer 4? because I'm not sure, plus the gasket set came with 4 copper crush washers but they move around quite a bit on the outer studs and dont look like they will fit properly.
I just checked the last 2 head gaskets I have (used) and they have copper outer inserts, I dont want to do it wrong, any ideas as on the new gasket?
Phil.

[feelergaugephil]

Also the head gasket is 3 ply with small rivets at the front and rear to hold it together..
Waiting on an answer so I can go out and put the head on or not.
Phil.

[feelergaugephil]

Well I guess NOBODY knows then! I put it all together now and it runs fine.

[chef1366]

Sorry Phil. I worked yesterday all day and didn't know the answer anyway.:?

[bwringer]

Subtract 150cc, and I could tell you from memory... also, the brand of gaskets would have helped.

Glad it worked out!

On the Vesrah GS850 gasket sets, the corner seals and the head gasket do seem to be a rather odd, loose fit. However, they always seem to work OK.

[49er]

Subtract 150cc, and I could tell you from memory... also, the brand of gaskets would have helped.

Glad it worked out!

On the Vesrah GS850 gasket sets, the corner seals and the head gasket do seem to be a rather odd, loose fit. However, they always seem to work OK.

I used a Vesrah top end gasket set on my 850. The old gasket was a 5 layer pressed steel affair, with no rubber seals on the outer oil galleys. It never seemed to leak though. The Vesrah gasket set had 4 copper washers that were supplied as replacements to be fitted under the acorn nuts on the oil galley studs.
Phil, I hope those weren't the washers you used on the head gasket oil galleys!!

[feelergaugephil]

ATHENA was the gasket, the 4 copper washers I was talking about were the crush type which came with the Vesrah set, not the copper ones under the dome nuts.
Hey, I know the manual states 29ft/lbs on the head bolts, whats the safest I can go higher? as I know these heads are prone to leaks.............

[chef1366]

Retourqe after 500 miles. You shouldn't have a problem for a LONG time if you do. :-D

[bwringer]

Retourqe after 500 miles. You shouldn't have a problem for a LONG time if you do. :-D

I also check torque at every valve clearance check. They usually don't move after the first few checks.