I'm an idiot, I accept that. Can anyone help?

[OldenDays]

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Ok, i kick my own @ss for leaving the fuel turned on (lazy) but one of my horses got loose while i was at work, and knocked over (kicked?) my '79 GS850 and it laid there all day like that, spilling fuel everywhere to boot.
Now when i started it up, it seemed fine....
Then when i got it to town to re-fuel, i noticed oil all over my right boot.:shock:

So now it is spewing oil and i can only guess what all is messed up in there so i just parked it out in the barn till further notice.

I called every bike shop within 100 miles of here (Eureka Springs Arkansas) and no one will TOUCH it !!! I get the same answer at every place...

"It's HOW OLD?? LOLOLOL We dont work on anything over 10 years old!"

I am no mechanic, i am deadly with a screwdriver and a hammer.

I would pay someone to fix it properly before i get in there and royally screw it up, i just cant find anyone to do it.

I love that bike, and hate the thought of selling it, but if i cant get it fixed, i will have to let it become someone elses problem.

Any suggestions?

Tom Tharp
oldendayscarriage@yahoo.com

P.S.
I just downloaded the shop manuals listed in another thread so if i find someone handy with tools, they will have *that* much to go on anyway! THANKS for posting those! If you all need somewhere else to host them, i'd be glad to provide space for that with a link so you all can find it when you need it.

[phaserburn]

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[sharpy]

too full?

Fuel went into engine when it was on its side. simple fix is drain the oil and filter and take out spark plugs and cover the leads, disconnect the wires or leave the leads well away from the top of engine. Undo the carb bowls screws and then wind the engine over on full throttle to flush out the fuel in the engine. Replace everything and fill it back up with oil and you should be ok as long as the fuel tap/ carbies dont leak. Thats the simple answer all depends on weather the carbs still leak.

[Jd Powell]

Fuel went into engine when it was on its side. simple fix is drain the oil and filter and take out spark plugs and cover the leads, disconnect the wires or leave the leads well away from the top of engine. Undo the carb bowls screws and then wind the engine over on full throttle to flush out the fuel in the engine. Replace everything and fill it back up with oil and you should be ok as long as the fuel tap/ carbies dont leak. Thats the simple answer all depends on weather the carbs still leak.

I agree with Sharpy, You will undoubtedly have fuel in your oil so change it. Also wash or replace your air filter as it probably soaked up some of that mixture. Drain carb bowls, and while they are empty remove spark plugs and crank over.To blow out any remaining crap. (as Sharpy mentioned the spark plug leads must be covered, Or just unplug the coil. two small wires in a connector at the back of each one. This is very important if you value your electrical systems) Clean bike and test ride. If you didnt see a leak it is very possible the oil on your boot was residual from the spill and was simply blown off the bike onto you. All of these procedures are in the manual sec 3 periodic maintenance. Cheers.

[Suzuki mad]

OK, so your no mechanic and you have an old bike. So what........

Put the bike on centre stand and turn the fuel tap off to start with. Check home much oil you have in the engine by looking at the sight glass on the right hand side of the engine near where the foot peg goes. If its all black then its likely you have fuel in the oil. If its lower then its likely that the oil has moved and the excess is being dripped out.

Check for broken casings or signs of leaks or potential leaks as to why your boot was getting covered.

If your bike was knocked over fuel would come out of the filler cap as there is an air hole in there. It would also come out of the drains on the carburettors also being on its side. Has the tank been damaged in the incident so a split seam or a puncher tank?

There's enough knowledge on this site to help you through this and keep the old girl going for a few more years. If your really lucky them somebody else in the 'club' may be close and come over to give morale or physical support. Where abouts are you as your header doesn't show.

Most local dealers near to me won't work on bikes more than 5 years old so be greatful that one will do a ten year old bike.

Suzuki mad.

[OldenDays]

Just me again

Hey guys, I am in northwest Arkansas, Eureka Springs specificly, i will try and get my profile header thing filled out soon, sorry about that.

I cannot find any damage to the tank itself, and like i said, i started it, and drove it to town it seemed just fine other than the oil on my right boot.

I guess i am gonna have to find a copy of the service/repair maunal, all i have is the owners manual and what i downloaded earlier.

[thewiz]

See this previous post...

http://www.thegsresources.com/_forum/showthread.php?t=106519

Maybe you can use the Private Message function and he will make it available to you. Good Luck

[jbs80106]

what I would do....

can't say its thorough but....

Since you were able to ride it into town, tells me that you'll have ridden the gas outta the engine. Oil blow-back probably due to gas in the oil.

1. Drain the oil
Proper way...undo the big bolt on the bottom of the bike at the oil pan.

2. Remove wash/replace the oil filter. Held on by 3 acorn nuts on the front of your engine. Warning: There's a spring under that oil filter cover so you'll need to push on it while you take the acorn nuts off. Oil filter just comes out. I'd replace it with a new one. 2nd Warning: Often times, the acorn nuts are so tight onto the threads that the whole thing winds up comming out (the stud stuck to the nut). And when putting the acorn nuts back on, they're pretty soft and easy to strip out. Just be careful and you should be okay. If you botch it, you can either go down to Ace and get some stainless threads/nuts...or if you're limited you can replace them metric stainless head head bolts. (replacing with hex-heads isn't recommended because you'll be taking them in/out of the engine everytime you replace the oil filter and risk stripping out the threads in the motor which is a much harder thing to fix.

3. Refill with required amount of 10W40 oil and fire her back up. You'll probably want to keep an eye on the oil level thru the bevel the 1st few days to make sure its not leaking gas into the carbs as mentioned....

Should be easy enough. If I can do it with my limited mechanical skills I'm sure you can!

[BassCliff]

Hey howdy hey!

Mr. Oldendays,

Let it be known that on this day your are hereby cordially and formally welcomed to the GSR Forum as a Junior Member in good standing with all the rights and privileges thereof. Please note that "good standing" implies pictures! :-D

With a little coaching, a few tools, and a manual you will be surprised how much work you can do on your bike yourself. This is a great bunch here. They've been teaching me how to be a better motorcycle mechanic and a better motorcycle rider.

If you need a Suzuki shop manual (better than Clymer or Haynes) for your 850, please PM me. I think I've got an extra copy around here somewhere.

Thanks for joining us. Keep us informed.

Thank you for your indulgence,

BassCliff
(The unofficial GSR greeter)

[chef1366]

With the idiot part no. ;-)

As everyone suggested just change the oil, filter and clear the cylinders.

[OldenDays]

Thank you all!

Thank you all for your help!
I am going to have to wait till i have a day off, and access to my Harley-friend's bike lift and i will for sure change the oil and filter.
I have had several mechanics tell me (foremost my bro-in-law who builds race-car motors) to start with the easy inexpensive stuff first and see what happens.

I got the email from Ray, keep an eye out for a goober in a cowboy hat driving a horse drawn carriage next time you are in Eureka Springs!

I will PM on the service manual.

I will strive to get photos in my profile.

I will do my best to stay in good standing!

Thanks again everyone!

Tom

[BassCliff]

Oil change pictures

Hi Mr. Oldendays,

You don't need a bike lift to change the filter and oil. The oil drain plug is on the bottom of the motor pretty much in the middle of the oil pan. Use a spark plug size socket to take it off. The filter is under the round plate at the bottom front of the motor between the #2 and #3 pipes. There are 3 "acorn" nuts holding it on (10mm I believe). Take care as the cover is spring-loaded. There will also be some oil to drain out of the filter cavity. Take the old filter out, put the new one in. Replace the funny-shaped O-ring on the cover and put it back on top of the filter with the spring in place, then tighten the nuts. See the round cover in the lower middle of the crankcase below?




The oil fill plug is right behind the clutch cable on the right side of your bike.



Forgive me if I state the obvious. These are the filters/O-rings I use.

Thank you for your indulgence,

BassCliff

[OldenDays]

Thanks, i have changed the oil before, i have just found that it goes a lot easier on my back if it is up on the lift.\\/

Yeah, we found out about that darned spring the hard way... :shock: we must have beenon our hands and knees in the shop lookin for that thing for half an hour!