Is losing the key ignition possible?

[Ironriot]

I've been wondering if I can somehow bypass the key ignition and set up the bike to turn on with a killswitch or something else of the like. Is it possible or am I just stupid?


Before you say, 'well then anyone can steal your bike.' Know that I've already thought of a pretty nifty idea for a killswitch that I'm pretty sure NOONE will ever figure out how to use

[TheCafeKid]

I've been wondering if I can somehow bypass the key ignition and set up the bike to turn on with a killswitch or something else of the like. Is it possible or am I just stupid?


Before you say, 'well then anyone can steal your bike.' Know that I've already thought of a pretty nifty idea for a killswitch that I'm pretty sure NOONE will ever figure out how to use

Well, the only prob i see is having to lock out the accessories from being on all the time. You could do this however...

Wire the accessories wire to a toggle, so that you can always turn them off and on. And then wire the "ON" wire to a toggle or push button. Ive seen it done on a couple of cafe bikes. Slickest one had the starter button hidden under the seat pan. Climb on, reach under and push to start. Seems pretty simple.

[Ironriot]

Well, the only prob i see is having to lock out the accessories from being on all the time. You could do this however...

Wire the accessories wire to a toggle, so that you can always turn them off and on. And then wire the "ON" wire to a toggle or push button. Ive seen it done on a couple of cafe bikes. Slickest one had the starter button hidden under the seat pan. Climb on, reach under and push to start. Seems pretty simple.

Awesome so its doable..... I got some badass gauges off of Paulyboy and would you know, they interfer right with my ignition. So I knew it was gonna get moved. But then the more I thought about it the more I knew that I wanted to lose it altogether. I don't have the sharpest memory and I only have one key, so no key ignition would be best probably

[TheCafeKid]

How you gonna keep it safe tho? Just curious.

[Zooks]

Wire the accessories wire to a toggle, so that you can always turn them off and on. And then wire the "ON" wire to a toggle or push button. Ive seen it done on a couple of cafe bikes. Slickest one had the starter button hidden under the seat pan. Climb on, reach under and push to start. Seems pretty simple.

This is how you take your average family sedan and turn it into a racecar / speedway racer etc. I have built heaps of race cars and none have keys. The last thing you want to be fiddling with when you are strapped in a racing seat is a key. It's always toggles and push buttons. Racing bikes are the same. The key / lock is just another thing that can go wrong.

[bwringer]

I saw a neat setup on a custom where all you saw was a neat row of five tiny switches. All five had to be in the exact correct position for the starter to work. Once you started the bike, you just flipped 'em all to one side so no one has a chance to memorize the 'combination". There were other tricksy hidden switches as well to turn on the lights and energize the ignition.

It's called "security through obscurity" -- if someone wanted to steal your bike, they'd have to know the trick and then spend some amount of time experimenting. At some point, it's easier to just get a pickup and a couple of strong guys and steal the whole thing.

You can also put in some dummy switches, wire the kill switch backwards, add a big red "start" button that doesn't do anything, require the rear brake lever to be pressed, etc. There are all sorts of ways to keep things yours without depending on a small lump of wiggly metal. Maybe you could figure out a way to adapt one of those computer fingerprint scanners.

With race cars and bikes, you don't want things to be obscured, of course. In these cases, you keep it under surveillance, keep it under cover (in a trailer or garage), and/or put on a disk lock or lock it to something big and difficult to move or demolish.

There's also the obscurity of the bike itself. Hardley-Ableson based customs are perfect thief targets because there's a large and ready market for the parts. In some areas, it's the same with late-model sportybikes.

With a GS, the market is pretty small, and most of us know each other. Unless the thief is just out for a joyride, they don't have much of a reason to steal a GS since they'd have a very difficult time quickly generating cash from a stolen bike or parts.

[tkent02]

I hate keys too.
I hate getting my bike stolen even more.
So I rigged a stick of dynamite under the seat to blow if someone starts the bike up without putting in the secret code.
Pretty smart, huh?

[SqDancerLynn1]

Replace the key with a relay, activate the relay with the kill switch

[marvinsc]

I hate keys too.
I hate getting my bike stolen even more.
So I rigged a stick of dynamite under the seat to blow if someone starts the bike up without putting in the secret code.
Pretty smart, huh?

As long a YOU Remember the code.*:shock::-D

[tkent02]

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As long a YOU Remember the code.*:shock::-D

Dyslexia is a bitch.

[Steve]

Dyslexia is a bitch.

Dyslexics of the world,...UNTIE \\/

My mother was founder and president of D.A.M.

That's Mothers Against Dyslexia. :-\"




Now back to your regularly scheduled thread...

Ironriot, yes, you can lose your ignition key. As others have mentioned, you will have to be a little more concerned about security when you leave the bike.

One other area that has not been mentioned is the LOCK function that the key provides. By not using the key, you will definitly lose that feature.

[Junkie]

If you've got a decent memory, throw a combination padlock on the front disc or rear sprocket and wire up a switch to replace the ignition as other people said.

[Griffin]

I hate keys too.
I hate getting my bike stolen even more.
So I rigged a stick of dynamite under the seat to blow if someone starts the bike up without putting in the secret code.
Pretty smart, huh?

I saw a rabbit with a Brooklyn accent do that to his Acme Roadster once. Turns out a black duck with a speech impediment tried to start the bike and his bill blew half way around his head.

[bakalorz]

I've been wondering if I can somehow bypass the key ignition and set up the bike to turn on with a killswitch or something else of the like. Is it possible or am I just stupid?


Before you say, 'well then anyone can steal your bike.' Know that I've already thought of a pretty nifty idea for a killswitch that I'm pretty sure NOONE will ever figure out how to use

I'm debating something like this too, since my ignition key is getting worn, and sometimes hard to turn.

The only problem is that you still need the key for the gas cap.
(and in my case the helmet lock if I use it)

Any easy way to make the gas cap not require that key ?

[Zooks]

I saw a rabbit with a Brooklyn accent do that to his Acme Roadster once. Turns out a black duck with a speech impediment tried to start the bike and his bill blew half way around his head.

You're dithpicable!!!!