air box clip

[shaunt]

Hello everyone, I got a 1981 GS650G, I took the air filter out by sliding the metal clips off the air box, I can not put the bottom one back, I can slide the top one okay, but I could not slide the bottom one, any trick to do this?

shaunt

[BassCliff]

Hey howdy hey!

Mr. shaunt,

Let it be known that on this day you are cordially and formally welcomed to the GSR Forum as a Junior Member in good standing with all the rights and privileges thereof. Further let it be known that your good standing can be improved with pictures (not you, your bike)! :-D


I'm sorry I can't help you with your air filter. I've never seen a real, live GS650G up close. 8-[
But I'm sure someone here has.


Perhaps you've already seen these, but I like to remind all the new members. In addition to the carb rebuild series, I recommend visiting the garage section via the GSR Hompage and check out the Stator Papers. There's also a lot of great information in the Old Q&A section. I have some documentation on my little BikeCliff website to help get you familiar with doing routine maintenance tasks (note that it is 850G-specific but many tasks are common to all GS bikes). Other "user contributed" informational sites include those of Mr. bwringer, Mr. tfb and Mr. robertbarr.

And here are some quotes from one of our dear beloved gurus, Mr. bwringer, with ideas on basic needs, parts, and accessories.

***********Quoted from Mr. bwringer************

Carburetor maintenance:

Replace the intake boot o-rings, and possibly the intake boots. Here's the procedure:

http://bwringer.com/gs/intakeorings.html

Here's an overview of what happens with this particular problem:

http://cycleorings.com/intake.html

You'll also want to examine the boots between the carbs and the airbox. There's a good chance these are OK, but check them over.

And finally, if things still aren't exactly right, you'll want to order a set of o-rings for BS carbs from the GS owner's best friend, Robert Barr:

http://cycleorings.com

Once you receive these rare rings of delight, then you'll want to thoroughly clean and rebuild your carburetors. Here are step-by-step instructions that make this simple:

http://thegsresources.com/gs_carbrebuild.htm

*************End Quote*************
**********<quote Mr. bwringer>**********
Every GS850 has (or had) a set of well-known issues that MUST be addressed before you have a solid baseline for further troubleshooting.

It's a vintage bike, and it's quite common (as in, every single GS850 I have had contact with) that there are multiple problems that have crept up and slowly gotten worse over the years.

It's not like a newer vehicle, where there's generally one problem at a time.

These common issues are:

Intake O-rings (install NEW OEM or Viton only - common nitrile o-rings will quickly deteriorate from heat)

Intake Boots (install NEW -- these cannot be repaired)

Valve clearances (more important than most people think)

Carb/airbox boots

Airbox sealing

Air filter sealing

Petcock (install a NEW one)

On '79 models, install new points or Dyna electronic ignition (or at least verify that the old points are working correctly)

On all models, it's fairly common to have problems with the spark plug caps. These are $3 or $4 each, and often worth replacing if you're keeping the stock coils/wires.

Stock exhaust with NO leaks or holes -- good seals at the head and at the junctions underneath.
**********<end quote>**********
***********Quoted from Mr. bwringer***************

http://denniskirk.com

Put in your bike model and see what they have.

I would definitely double and triple the recommendations to use Cycle Recycle II and Z1 Enterprises as much as possible. These guys are priceless resources. Z1 tends to have slightly better prices, CRC2 has a wider range of goodies available. If you're near Indy and can bring in an old part to match, CRC2 has a vast inventory of used parts.

http://oldbikebarn.com seems to be slowly regaining a decent reputation, but it's still caveat emptor. They don't have anything you can't get elsewhere at a better price anyway.

OEM Parts/Online Fiches:

http://www.babbittsonline.com/

Decent parts prices. Spendy shipping. Don't give you part numbers at all. Useful cross-reference if you obtain a part number elsewhere. Efficient service.

http://bikebandit.com

Fastest. Middlin' prices. Uses their own parts numbering system to obfuscate price comparisons -- can be very confusing for large orders. Cheapest shipping, so total cost usually isn't too bad.

http://flatoutmotorcycles.com

Slow. Cheapest parts prices, crazy shipping costs. Don't expect progress updates or much communication. Real Suzuki part numbers.

http://alpha-sports.com

Exorbitant parts prices. Different type of fiche interface that's quite useful at times, especially with superceded part numbers. Real parts numbers. Shipping cost and speed unknown due to insane, unholy pricing.


Stainless Bolts, Viton o-rings, metric taps, dies, assorted hard-to-find supplies and materials, etc.:

http://mcmaster.com

Fast, cheap shipping, good prices. No order minimum, but many items like bolts come in packs of 25 or 50. Excellent resource.

http://motorcycleseatcovers.com

Great quality, perfect fit (on original seat foam), and available for pretty much every bike ever made. Avoid the textured vinyl -- it's perforated.

http://newenough.com

You DO have riding gear, don't you? Great clearances, always outstanding prices and impeccable service.
***************End Quote**********************

Here are extra links:

Cycle-Re-Cycle Part 2

http://crc2onlinecatalog.com/

The ever popular Z1 Enterprises

http://www.z1enterprises.com

The Rice Paddy (salvage/used)

http://www.ricepaddymotorcycles.com

Ron Ayers Motorsports

http://www.ronayers.com

Thanks for joining us. Keep us informed of your progress. There's lots of good folk with good experience here.

Thank you for your indulgence,

BassCliff
(The unofficial GSR greeter)

[shaunt]

air box

thank you for your response actually I am not a newbe, I was part of this group for long time under the name ard. lately I tried to log on , I couldent, for some reason when I wrote to Frank, he suggested to re register, this time I am using my real name , I have bunch of Suzukis and bunch of Kawasakis, I enjoy all of them, my prize bike is a 1986 Suzuki GS1150E my common in the city ride is ZRX1100. The 650 I got for my sun in law, since my daughter rides a zx10, but I like Suzukis for many reasons, thgey are very easy to work on except the slide clip for the air box but my sun in law does not seem to be interested so I have to do the work.

shaunt

[BassCliff]

Oops!

Mr. shaunt,

Very good! Welcome back and please pardon my ignorance. I hope I did not offend.

Thank you for your indulgence,

BassCliff

[JTsGS650]

Hello everyone, I got a 1981 GS650G, I took the air filter out by sliding the metal clips off the air box, I can not put the bottom one back, I can slide the top one okay, but I could not slide the bottom one, any trick to do this?

shaunt

Should be pretty straight forward. Make sure the filter is in correctly and the box is closed completely. You could also try and push the airbox forward a bit to give you a bit more room. The top clip is definitely easier to get on than the bottom one. Good luck.

[duaneage]

Try entering from the other direction, and press the box together. If the box is not together properly the clips won't go in.